• Atomic@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    Yeah ok. Buy a game. Do a chargeback. And it’s illegal for them to them ban your account?

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      6 months ago

      Thats the opposite of what i explained and im 100% talking about EU (more specifically German) Laws

      Its probably legal in muricaland, but not here.

      And a charge back is for fraudulent charges. Not to “undo a purchase”.

      And yes you having 10 games on a account and doing that with the 11th cannot legally destroy your 10 other games.

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        6 months ago

        That’s not what I’m talking about either.

        And yes. If someone does a charge-back instead of a refund. Something that is intended for fraud. They are misusing it. Which is a clear breach, and it would not be surprising if you could get banned for that.

        You think all German laws are EU laws?

        Ubisoft deleted lots of accounts from people everywhere due to “inactivity”, even if you had paid games on it. I didn’t see a successful lawsuit from germans.

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          6 months ago

          You think all German laws are EU laws?

          No but they are the laws i learned and are very close to ths EU guidelines. So companies usually comply with the German laws on EU level because its the biggest market and otherwise it would be a unnecessary clusterfuck. The other EU countries have basically the same laws as Germany when there is a EU guideline for it.

          So i don’t think they are, but they literally kinda are.

          Ubisoft deleted lots of accounts from people everywhere due to “inactivity”, even if you had paid games on it. I didn’t see a successful lawsuit from germans.

          Thats their right, you have to show interest in keeping a contract running otherwise it can legally be canceled. Also, there is Noone suing because people that where effected either didn’t want the account anymore or just logged in once. Ubisoft send out emails and tried to notify people about this, they even extended the time frame once because to make it 100% legal proof. I don’t approve of that personally, but legally its perfectly fine.

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            6 months ago

            So i don’t think they are, but they literally kinda are.

            They literally, are not. But if that’s what you want to believe i cannot stop you.

            And yes it is their right. Just like other services have the right to cancel your account if you are in breach with their policies.

            E.g. issuing chargebacks, several months later just because you regret your purchase.

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              6 months ago

              You seem to not understand laws.

              And as i already said, charge back is for fraudulent transactions. Not because you regret buying something.

              No it has nothing to do with their TOS, its literally laws.

              Either learn law or shut up about things you obviously don’t understand.

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                6 months ago

                Yes… and if you try to issue a chargeback for a transaction you simply regret. That is you engadging in fradulent behavior. And the company have every right to ban your account for trying to defraud them.

                Keep up…

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                  6 months ago

                  No a charge back is blaming the company for fraudulent charges.

                  And no, the company doesn’t have the right to cancel everything because one thing is not going good. That’s not how it works, keep being law illiterate. And now shut it. You are obviously not interested in actually arguing a point, you just keep hitting a strawman.

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                    6 months ago

                    Yes. That is the intended function.

                    But you know. Some people. They do things that are not intended. They’re not supposed to. But they do it anyway. Maybe that’s a difficult concept to grasp for a German. But take my word for it when I say that some people do those things.

                    And you keep claiming that its illegal for companies to cancel someone’s account as consequence.

                    Please show me the EU guideline stating that. If you can’t. Please shut up and realize you don’t know shit.