• BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    6 months ago

    I have been explaining in every comment in this thread, you’ve just been either choosing not to directly address it or you still don’t understand that my argument has been ignoring prevalence in favor of the logic of the comparison itself.

    I’ll keep going in this circle for as long as you want though.

    • jimbolauski@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      6 months ago

      You claim to have a reason why but you won’t provide it. I wonder why that is.

        • jimbolauski@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          6 months ago

          I am repeating myself because you won’t provide a reason why. If you did we could move forward.

          • BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            edit-2
            6 months ago

            Nah, you’re just incapable of moving past the point that if not all white supremacists are racists then surely you must know of one you could use as an example, but you can’t, so your argument is unsubstantiated.

            Instead, you just want to focus on prevalence of white supremacy violence, which is such a strawman of the original point made but I’ve got you running in circles here because you can’t just admit it was a poorly thought out comparison to make.

            Still waiting for a single white supremacist you can use as an example of your argument. Otherwise you’re just asking me to take you at your word, or accept the strawman. I refuse to do either because that’s dumb.

            • jimbolauski@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              3
              ·
              6 months ago

              That’s sort of an explanation but it requires you to misinterpret my original reply. White supremacists can be catorgized similarly to radical Islam, both are very rare, have no place in society, pose little to no threat to society as it is so rare, and are used as the bogeyman.

              • BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                4
                ·
                edit-2
                6 months ago

                Gonna give you these:

                • have no place in society
                • used as the bogeyman

                White supremacy + Islam are NOT “very rare”. About 2B people are Muslim, it is the second largest religion and the fastest growing. Racism has been around for about as long as we’ve been recording events, white supremacy is but one flavor.

                If you mean radical Islam, what are you basing the word “radical” on, just so we can be clear about who it is we’re talking about?

                I wouldn’t call white supremacy little to no threat to society either:

                https://www.reuters.com/world/us/white-supremacists-behind-over-80-extremism-related-us-murders-2022-2023-02-23/

                Violent attacks that can be directly contributed to white supremacy aside, the culture around white supremacy (at least in the US) is responsible for most of the racial discrimination and divide throughout the entire history of the country. So one could argue it’s been a massive detriment to society for generations.

                • jimbolauski@lemm.ee
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  3
                  ·
                  6 months ago

                  I’m referring to radical islam, that’s why I used the term radical Islam. Normal muslims don’t attack people for not being muslim, only radicals.

                  80 murders over 3 years is close to what lightning killed over the same period. It’s not a huge threat and the effort to fix the problem to stop white supremacy could be used in other areas to much higher effect.

                  • BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    4
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    6 months ago

                    I know you referred to radical Islam. That’s why I asked what your definition of “radical” was so we could come to a consensus.

                    lol I knew you’d stick on that number. Just because we don’t have a record of white supremacists killing more people than “radical” Muslims in recent history doesn’t mean white supremacy (and racism in general) hasn’t caused the death, torture suffering or exploitation of countless others over our species’ history and shaped the path of entire nations and groups of people, mostly for the worse.

                    If you’re just focusing on recent deaths, you’re missing the bigger picture. One is a toxic sect of a religion, the other is a product of the way our entire society is run, irrespective of religion.

                    So yes, white supremacy or any kind of racist thoughts actions and behaviors I would argue are WAYYYYYY more detrimental.