• jimbolauski@lemm.ee
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          I’ve already shown that the existence of a good white supremists does not change the threat white supremacy poses to society.

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              You haven’t shown how the comparison between Muslims and white supremacists is even a valid one to make

              I have, but you keep insisting I need to provide a good white supremists and/or falsely claim that I said there was a good white supremists.

              When you are assessing a threat the number things that are not a threat is not relevant. Muslims are not a threat because there are few incidents where Muslims were a threat, white supremists are not a threat because there are few incidents where white supremists are a threat.

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                It only stands to reason that if you’re trying to compare the two and downplay the seriousness of white supremacy that is baked into our society by comparing it to faith-based violence by followers of Islam, you should also be able to show a single example of a white supremacist who isn’t part of that problem.

                I argue racism is a much larger threat because it is pervasive throughout our society, and has already led to many more deaths injuries and unnecessary suffering from people going without adequate medical care, financial aid, housing, a well-paying job, or even basic decency in public because of how they look.

                You want statistics which are out there and available, I will not provide them until I first have an example of a white supremacist who is not a part of that problem before I do, because until that time there is no point for me to argue.

                If you don’t believe me because you don’t see it in the world then congratulations, you’re privileged enough for it to not be your problem. Myself, my family and friends live it every day. Just because I’m not linking an article with a conservative bend telling you as much doesn’t mean it’s not happening. It’s not my job anyway. Educate yourself on the struggles of your fellow citizens.

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                  you should also be able to show a single example of a white supremacist who isn’t part of that problem.

                  You still have not given any reason why a good white supremists would make white supremacy less dangerous.

                  I argue racism is a much larger threat because it is pervasive throughout our society

                  It’s not pervasive. Further you need to show racism is the same thing as white supremacy if you plan on using racism as a stand in for white supremacy. You even have said white supremacy is rare.

                  You want statistics which are out there and available, I will not provide them

                  You can’t provide them, the only statistic you provided showed white supremacy murders were rare.

                  It’s not my job anyway. Educate yourself on the struggles of your fellow citizens.

                  Another excuse to not defend your position.

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                    You still have not given any reason why a good white supremacists would make white supremacy less dangerous.

                    The fact that you actually responded with this tells me you _still _ can’t see past your own privilege to recognize my point was comparing Muslims to White Supremacists is an apples and oranges comparison unless you can show that there is a portion of white supremacists that, like Muslims who do not interpret their faith’s message to justify violence, do not interpret white supremacy as a justification for racism.

                    You either can’t understand why that’s a dumb comparison, or you’re refusing to admit it’s a dumb comparison. Either way it’s what’s causing us to keep this thread going. It’ll stop when you want it to.

                    It’s not as pervasive

                    the entirety of western society and the way it operates has roots in racism and white supremacy. White supremacy is a form of racism. I’ve already spelled this out multiple times and there is no way to be clearer about it. I’m beginning to think you’re just not capable of understanding.

                    You can’t provide them

                    gestures wildly at modern society

                    If you want more, then back up your original comment, where you first compared white supremacists to Muslims, and I will respond with what you ask. But since you first brought up the comparison it is on you to finish making your case before I can respond in kind. Therefore if you refuse to, so do I.

                    another excuse to not defend your position.

                    lol since you brought up the comparison in the first place my refusal is an extension of yours. This is just you projecting.

                    Gaslight

                    Obstruct

                    Project <- You are Here

                    Defend your comment, then I’ll defend mine. Otherwise it’s just obvious you didn’t have a follow up and are just trying to claim superiority in this thread. Not gonna happen without backing up your statement.