• JackbyDev@programming.dev
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    6 months ago

    No one is pushing for a “cashless society” like this post describes. It’s fear mongering.

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      6 months ago

      There’s already businesses that are cashless and unless people talk about it the trend might well continue to the point it has enough of a foothold that we might not be able to stop it.

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        6 months ago

        There is a massive difference between a business being cashless and a government enforced “cashless society” like this post describes.

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          Spain, Belgium, and France have banned cash transactions above a threshhold (e.g. €3k) at least 5 years ago already. Cannot pay tax using cash in Belgium. Think about that for a minute.

          New recent law in Belgium: all businesses (incl. self-employed workers and even landlords renting out property) MUST accept electronic payment. Try doing that without using a bank.

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          sigh If a simple majority of businesses decided to go 100% cashless, the government would have no choice but to embrace it. Again: too many of you sit there in your chairs and say “oh well that could NEVER happen” then when it does you’re shocked, shocked I tell you, that it DID happen.

          I get pretty fucking tired of explaining things over and over again to people who apparently are just plain too dense to grasp what I’m saying and be rational about it.

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            6 months ago
            1. I completely disagree that if a majority of businesses went cashless that would mean the government has no choice but to be cashless.
            2. I never said it “could NEVER happen.”
            3. What do you mean it “DID happen,” it hasn’t.
            4. Ad hominem gets you nowhere.
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          Why do you think 210 is statistically insignificant? Is there a reason why the central limit theorem does not apply in this case?

          If you’re more fixated on the samples coming from Mastodon, can you explain why you might expect cashless proponents to be even fewer in populations outside of Mastodon? IMO, a Mastodon-using population is more likely to embrace individual rights and condemn imbalances of power that favor giant corporations like banks. I believe if the same survey is carried out outside of Mastodon, the 26% will be even bigger, if different.

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            5 months ago

            The same reason someone might think Linux is a wildly popular choice of OS on Lemmy. These communities are very niche.

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              Mastodon is not niche. Mastodon is a diverse community of nerds and low tech people, artistic brains and analytical brains, white collar workers and blue collar workers. A substantial portion of Mastodon is from Reddit refugees. Reddit is no more niche than Facebook.

              The greater Mastodon venue who that poll reached lacks right wing conservatives, who tend to stay in their bubble of extremist networks. That does not make Mastodon “niche”. Running the same survey on a right wing Mastodon node might be interesting, but we can see from the linked poll that political affiliation is generally orthoganol on this issue.