• Max-P@lemmy.max-p.meEnglish
    30·
    1 year ago

    I still don’t understand why OEMs are so slow to release updates when LineageOS can ship weekly builds that are more stable than stock ROMs, other than pure negligence.

    People claim QA and carrier QA and such, but when it’s a security patch to some core Android thing, you really only need to review it once and just rebuild everything and skip the QA on it. Or, you know, don’t release 50 devices every year.

    • ColonelPanic@lemm.eeEnglish
      15·
      1 year ago

      Part of it is also partly down to users just ignoring updates. I know people who complain about getting monthly updates let alone weekly. Another part (from experience) is also likely to be internal beurocracy where things just take ages because there’s so many unnecessary stages to go through before a release.

      • Max-P@lemmy.max-p.meEnglish
        14·
        1 year ago

        Patch updates really should be auto install by default for those users (but still let users opt out manually through settings if they want). Probably on home WiFi and while charging, just like Google Play does by default.

        With A/B devices, there’s no reason not to. It’s completely invisible to the user, and takes effect next time they reboot or run out of battery. Just needs maybe a single notification when it’s all done to tell the user to reboot when it’s convenient for them, or reboot overnight when the device is idle and charging. Completely transparent.

        • ColonelPanic@lemm.eeEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          My girlfriend’s phone applies patches automatically and puts a notification up suggesting to restart or schedule a restart over night and it just gets ignored. I press the button whenever I see it though.

          People don’t like being inconvenienced even if there’s an option just do do everything over night while charging, and even if everything was automatic and updates were just installed over night I guarantee people would find something to complain about. Unfortunately there’s no winning, but I agree that increased security from opt out updates would be beneficial.

        • d3Xt3r@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          With A/B devices

          The problem is, many popular devices still don’t have A/B partitions - Samsung being one of them.

          I’m not sure even if the S24 / Fold 5 have it, haven’t heard anyone mention anything about this yet.

      • danielfgom@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        This. I think they looked at the numbers and the vast majority of users never install updates.

        When my wife used iPhone she purposely avoided installing updates because it might change how the phone works and slow it down.

        I replaced that phone with a TCL and it gets zero updates. So she’s happy.

    • Moonrise2473@feddit.itEnglish
      6·
      1 year ago

      There are also networks that want to have the final decision on everything. For example with blackberry 10, the poor users with Verizon had a 1-2 year delay in getting updates

    • sounddrill@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyzEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      And lineageOS is awesome with their source(dt, vendor, kernel, etc) quality too!

      You can easily compile them with a good manifest and expect good comaptibility with other roms with small rebasing changes

  • jetAEnglish
    221·
    1 year ago

    Closed ecosystems where users are not in control of their devices are a risk to society. I’m including closed source baseband drivers as .

    • 👁️👄👁️@lemm.eeEnglish
      11·
      1 year ago

      Yes, but this also has absolutely nothing to do with the ecosystem. This is part of AOSP which is not a walled garden, hence why it affected all other Androids as well.