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- news@lemmy.world
Donald Trump has not received a poll boost in the first presidential election survey conducted since the failed assassination attempt on Saturday.
The poll, conducted by Morning Consult of 2,045 registered voters on Monday, reveals that Trump is leading Joe Biden by just one percentage point on 46 percent, compared to the president’s 45 percent. The poll has a margin of error of +/- two percentage points.
The shooting changed no ones votes yet it completely demoralized the Dems to the point that their leadership think its over. The reason is they don’t know what to campaign on anymore. They’re too scared to run a negative campaign anymore. But they are also incapable of running any sort of positive campaign.
That’s why Biden said he would try to put a cap on rent increases. It will never happen, but it gets people’s attention.
Actually promising a better future is a better strategy than listing his ‘achievements’ IMO. Problem is everyone remembers how they didn’t get their 2k covid checks, or how their student loans weren’t forgiven.
Problem is everyone remembers how they didn’t get their 2k covid checks, or how their student loans weren’t forgiven.
And every one of those stupid motherfuckers blames Biden instead of the republicans who stopped them…
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There are those who see through Trump’s bullshit and those who don’t. And those who see through it won’t have their views changed by this event.
We know how Trump would have reacted if the tables were turned. He wouldn’t have condemned the violence. He would have made evasive and vague statements suggesting that the violence should continue. We know that because he has done it before. Many times. As a matter of fact he did call for political violence against Hillary in 2016 when he suggested that “the second amendment people should do something about it”.
We are not fooled. We might not approve of political violence. But no amount of playing the victim is doing to make us forget that he is still a scumbag. We will vote him out.
There are those who see through Trump’s bullshit and those who don’t.
What has baffled me for the past eight years is how many people, since day one, have not observed him for who he really is. I still can not comprehend how he was elected president and is again the nominee for the Republican Party.
He has zero redeeming qualities. By all measures, he has the record of being the worst president in modern times. But most people don’t actually care about legislation or politics or this country - they only care about themselves and the “vibe” they get from someone.
We live in a world where verifiable lies are shaping our reality. The people who claim to be patriots are traitors to the intent of this nation. I just do not understand how the brains of some people veil them from what’s being presented directly in front of them. Moreover, I have no idea how this doesn’t keep getting worse.
He was elected because Democrats thought they could exploit his lack of support to force Clinton on everyone. They were wrong.
Trump’s victory is more about Democratic strategic failure than anything else, they gave him the election.
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They don’t represent my best interests even a little bit. My state will cast all its electoral ballots for Trump.
I’m going to vote Green. If they get 5% then a hard left platform will be on every American ballot in 2028. That’ll turn Democrats left. Or, a Justice Democrat jump ship and split the vote.
Ballot access '28 is actual leverage on the system. Better than wasting my vote on literally no change in the outcome while endorsing either of the fuckwads who can’t even deliver lines.
Third election, same thing. Hoping the masses learn how their system works eventually.
edit: There’s lots of down votes without explanation. This is why everything sucks: No one wants to learn and sacrifice anymore.
You’re getting downvoted because thinking that Green getting 5% of the vote will cause Democrats to pull left is a laughable fantasy. Nothing that any 3rd parties do affect their decisions or their overall platform. It’s all about money. You have a better chance of affecting Democratic or Republican policy if you donate a million dollars to one of their fundraisers than you do voting for Green, Libertarian, Independent, or whatever else for the rest of your entire life.
Without ranked or approval-based voting reform, nothing will ever split up the political duopoly in this country. We should be focusing our efforts on that, starting with local elections and working our way up. Down ballot races are arguably more impactful to your day-to-day life than which ass ends up in the Oval Office chair.
I get that voting while living in a state that is guaranteed to break for Trump or Biden feels like an exercise in futility. I’m not here to convince you to change your vote to Dem or Rep, you should feel entitled to do what you want with your vote, but stop pretending like throwing away your vote on the 3rd party candidate with no chance of winning and patting yourself on the back is some noble endeavor.
You’re getting downvoted because thinking that Green getting 5% of the vote will cause Democrats to pull left is a laughable fantasy.
If their platform, which is what Sanders watered down twice, is on every American’s ballot in 2028, then the Democrats will be forced left because they can’t weed out the choice in their crooked primary like they’ve done twice already.
The rest of your reply falsely equates my premise that Democrats will be forced left to a third party victory. It’s strawman, bad faith.
You asked for an explanation and I gave you one. Keep on dreaming that the only thing keeping Democratic establishment where they are on the political spectrum is that magic 5% number you tossed out and not the oodles of cash that their corporate donors supply them to keep things as they are.
Your explanation lacks nuance and includes logical fallacy. My 14 year old nephew would see right through it and be able to explain why.
I vote left in primaries and Dem in generals.
If we get some ranked choice then it will be different. Until then, we gotta play it safe.
Playing it safe is how we got here, apathetic moderate.
Reckless accelerationism is the effective altruism of the left.
Bewildering, lukewarm understanding is the effective altruism of the neolibs.
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If I lived in a purple state I’d vote Democrat for President to attempt short term harm reduction. I don’t even believe in it. But, I’d do it for the most underprivileged who can’t risk the alternative. If I lived in a blue state it’d depend on the nuance of the situation.
But, I live in a deep red state. My vote for President has absolutely no effect on the outcome of this election. I learned and reasoned a way to possibly empower the change most Democratic voters want to see in the next election. I don’t care about Green any more than Democrats, except that Green has a nice simple platform that they’ve been loyal to for decades and I agree with.
But, everyone thinks everyone else is too stupid to understand a couple paragraphs and choose wisely for themselves. That’s why everything sucks. We don’t trust each other at all.
My take on the down votes is that it is dangerous to spread ideas about voting third party in a democracy with an election system that mechanically only supports two parties.
Even if you’re in a “safe” state, people from states that are more in the margins may hear the sentiment and want to participate out of principle. It makes the opposition more likely to win.
If we want the Democrats to win in the end, it’s safer to be pushing for engagement on all fronts. That’s what the Republicans are doing and they can actually be trusted to vote.
If we want the Democrats to win in the end
Even after understanding, you head right back to the bullshit they feed us.
I don’t give a flying fuck about Democrats. I want me and the vast majority of Americans to win.
I think you are misunderstanding how the election system works. It is the Democrats vs Republicans and nothing else until a third party can get big enough to overtake one of the two and then it’s still just two major parties.
Save your energy for reforming the election system and then advocate for what you want. We have to be realistic here.
You’re entrenched in a false dichotomy seeking bandwagon validation. I won’t give it to you for your own good.
I hope you are happy helping the Republicans win
My vote for President has no impact on the outcome.
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I think this confirms what we kind of already know; Trump has maxed out his support, and it’s not much. Turnout is key for Democrats.
if Republicans win they do what they want and if Democrats win they let the Republicans do what they want
no matter what the outcome of the election is we will certainly be left with an elderly far right out of touch Christian who wants more police funding, less worker’s rights with stagnated wages, less bodily autonomy, more state’s rights, restrictive immigration policies, less education funding, more tax breaks for mega corporations
If the lesser evil wins, you get to protest and put pressure on the government to improve things. If the greater evil does, you end up in the prison system if you try that.
A vote is not a love letter, it is a bus ticket.
which one is the lesser evil?
under their leadership prices on everyday items has skyrocketed, pay has stagnated and has lowered compared to start pay during the covid pandemic, there is no universal healthcare, we have less rights today than eight years ago (shocked we still have marriage equality at least for now)
both are Christian and our loss of rights to bodily autonomy over their two presidential terms drives the point home
both candidates supported the takeover of mega corporate tobacco taking over nicotine harm reduction
cannabis regulation in the same form as we currently treat vaped nicotine is supported by both candidates leading to more iffy products and more criminals for the mega corporate prison complexes
Biden’s crime bills from his time as a politician are still causing harm in people’s lives today so how does picking a prosecutor for his running mate show any change or any difference in these policies or his thinking versus Trump?
so which candidate was it that supports us the citizens? hard to tell the two apart
A vote is not a love letter, it is a bus ticket.
if there is truth in this statement why not throw support behind a third party? with enough votes even with a low number eventually a third party would have to be recognized the same as the other two with access to the national debate stage