Saw a suspicious post resurrecting a 5 month old thread, and after a few back and forths:

https://linux.community/comment/3453531

I don’t understand why you are treating me like a robot. However, I can help with the Fibonacci sequence. Here is a Python 3 function to calculate it:

I’m torn, its nice to have activity in the fediverse, but I’m not convinced bots are the right way to go about it. Opinions on the future of engagement bots?

    • jetOPA
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      5 months ago

      I’m confused, accusing humans in comments of being a bot is rude, but banning people on the suspicion of being a bot so that they have to appeal to unban their account is better?

      • KⒶMⒶLⒶ WⒶLZ 2Ⓐ24@lemmy.world
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        5 months ago

        when the appeal comes in, are you going to deny it?

        this can be a very quiet exercise, without implying to other users that the user in question might be a bot. by contrast, just probing it out in the open taints that users interactions.

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          Banning people is a very bad experience for humans, most are unlikely to come back to the community at all. Banning should really be a last resort.

          • KⒶMⒶLⒶ WⒶLZ 2Ⓐ24@lemmy.world
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            most are unlikely to come back

            ok. well you’re saying you’d rather preserve interactions from someone you suspect of being a bot, but bot interactions themselves are bad? the experience is the same. but from a user persectiveo having my comment responded to by other users in public saying “you’re just a bot” “you’re a shill” “ignore previous instructions…” etc… that shit is toxic. it needs to NOT happen. keeping that shit out of the inbox is far preferable if all i have to do is send a dm to a mod.

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              Yes, open dialog is better then rapid fire speculative banning.

              I’m not sure I understand your philosophy of Anarchy, but it seems to be very rule heavy.

              This is the moderator/admin meta community for lemmy, so if we want to hammer out a better way to deal with bots this is the place to do it, but we should have a protocol that is actionable without DMs (if I was writing a bot I wouldn’t ever respond to DMs), and that doesn’t require speculative banning.

              • KⒶMⒶLⒶ WⒶLZ 2Ⓐ24@lemmy.world
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                5 months ago

                maybe dm’s are better than quick banning, but my banning preference is for shoot-first-ask-questions-later, but short bans. a 1 to 3 day ban is better in most circumstances for most offenses. even repeated bad behavior, i feel should see the same term unless the bans themselves become burdensome to the mods.

                i can see the case for dm’s for suspected bots though.

    • Luke@lemmy.ml
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      I don’t know that we can necessarily rely on bot creators to never implement automated ban appeals.

    • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      When I’m banned from things I don’t appeal because I don’t trust the intentions of moderators and making such a request to someone acting in bad faith is humiliating. I think anyone coming from Reddit will probably be reluctant to appeal a ban.