This meme shows up here way too often…like every other day…
Obviously there’s a need for people in this comm to uninstall their boot loaders, and a frustration that Windows won’t let them.
They can take my footguns when they pry them from my cold dead hands.
cold dead
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Noticed that too, my memory is absolute godshit and even I remember having seen it at least twice now in the current recency.
We are really mimicking Reddit.
And it’s not even that great of a flex too. “My OS lets me sudo commands that will break my system.” Great, so your system lets you accidentally break the system with a fat finger mistake? Why would I want that?
Windows is geared towards a general audience that includes some of the dumbest and least technically literate people to ever walk the earth. And they have to support it. Of course they’re going to limit your permissions.
Using that argument as a basis for why it’s ok for MS to disallow uninstallation of Edge: 🤡
Did I say I was defending MS’ restrictions on Edge? No. I think it’s dumb, but not for the reason you think.
MS prevents you from uninstalling edge because for some stupid reason a bunch of system processes and their store all require and use edge as a dependency. Removing edge would actually break a lot of things in windows. Is it stupid? Absolutely. But the reason they don’t want to do that is because MS implements a lot of restrictions like this to prevent their end users from breaking windows with stupid mistakes.
But this meme isn’t about allowing people to removing edge. Its trying to flex on the capabilities of linux vs. windows but using the laziest smooth brained way to do that. There are a lot of benefits to linux over windows. But the ability to sudo fuck your bootloader isn’t one of them.
The reason they don’t is because of the antitrust suit they had back in the day. The tried to argue internet explorer was a integrated part of the OS so they didn’t have to remove it. Now they are forcing edge to be just that so they do their old anti trust shit again
Are those lot of things actually useful? I forcibly removed edge or most of its files anyway and had no issue. The links won’t work obviously but that’s a feature to me. Fuck edge and windows.
Look I’m not going to defend windows or Microsoft. Personally I doubt its useful at all but it doesn’t really matter. A broken dependency is a broken dependency.
Even if it’s a pet project from a bing exec that’s completely unnecessary - if removing it will break things, an os geared towards a general public should prevent it from being removed.
One of the things that people like about Linux is how configurable it is. This meme is alluding to the power that Linux gives users through a technique known as “humor”.
Oh duh, you’re absolutely right, I forgot about the oft used configuration option of “sudo fuck my boot loader = enabled”
If linuxmemes thinks this meme is humor, it explains a lot.
It could be said that while there’s a million good reasons to allow uninstallation of edge, this is taking one of the weakest ones.
You could easily vouch for it and still think it’s not really that great to point out something that would easily break the PC for a lot of inexperienced users.
In case anyone is wondering, that pile of symbols means true in brainfuck
I wasn’t wondering. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
Wait, all of that for just a Boolean true value or is that some sort of logical expression?
Maybe it’s the string “true”?
Not true, it outputs “Wipp” to the console
That it doesn’t mean “true” can be immediately seen by the fact there’s a … in there, which outputs the same character twice
Me: “I’m going to change Python3 default to >3.7” Ubuntu: scream in exceptions
pyenvand chill. Practical default it in your shells without messing with what installed packages expect.Yeah, but still those packages should probably not be calling the generic
python3if they need a specific version of python. If they depend on system installed pip packages, there’s got to be a better solution.I’m more of an
asdfguy myself.
Symlinks all day
eselect python
Hmmm, not having a problem with that even though I have it at 3.10
I must’ve been doing something wrong, symlinked Python3 to 3.7 and apt ecosystem breaks on me in 18&22 LTS
@Amity_Noceda @AbsolutelyNotCats
This is why I love NixOS so much.
Oh I was wondering why some people mentions when replying. Now with double mentions i found you are from mastodon
Yeah mastodon does that by default and I am too lazy to remove them…
Wait… Microsoft is still pretending that having their web browser installed is vital to the continued operation of their OS?
Mac does the same. You can’t remove Safari and you can’t
sudo chmod 0 /Applications/Safari.appAsk me how I know 😒
how do you know?
HE ASKED ONE THING OF YOU
And he delivered.
No, we spoke about this, never answer the request
I read it on wikihow
neato burrito
Well, in their eyes, it seems vital to be sending me adverts as notifications, I guess it’s probably also vital that those adverts have a browser to link through
Did we not teach them a lesson about this in the 90s?
The lesson they learned in the 90s is that you can drag a trial out long enough to get a favorable administration in office to give you a slap on the wrist.
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Isn’t it required for all networked services they provide via windows (for example windows update, network connectivity checks, etc)
If you buy that.
Tbh I have no idea, it was just an educated guess
Some old applications depend on IE, but not Edge
Browsers use network functions. Any program can use network functions, no need for a browser.
Can you install applications in any other way on windows?
Yes, Windows has an app store, and a CLI package manager called Winget now.
But the Windows app store is garbage and Windows users are pathologically afraid of the terminal so…effectively no.
I tried giving Winget a try but it kind of sucks.
You can just run the portable version without installing.
Yes, you can install Chocolatey without using a browser.
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Meh, weak argument in my opinion. If one happens to run into the problem of having no browser, there are other ways around it. E.g., using your smartphone to download the installer of a browser and transfer it to the PC. People, who run into situations where they could end up with no browser are usually those who are overwhelmed with the internet anyways.
That they don’t make it easy to uninstall edge, while it’s easy to fuck up your system in other ways, clearly shows that it’s not about helping DAUs, but about forcing edge onto users.
If there was a simple checkbox to uninstall Edge… checking it back on would just install it. That’s how the rest of Windows system features work.
Unlike Linux, Windows tries to accommodate any kind of user.
And how it tries to accomodate user that does not want any browser?
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I.e. without browser installed? It contradicts your previous statement.
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Will Microsoft send spare disk for all the bloat user don’t want, but can’t delete?
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that brainfuck code gives a memory error :(
No way you actually tested it. It would be impressive
This is the correct piece of
shitcode, somehow my lemmy app didn’t write it well in the title+[--->++<]>+.++[-->+++++<]>++.Sure, blame the IDE.
Online compiler said it was
WSorry, I don’t visit http sites. Do you have a secure alternative for that website?
They won’t bite… As long as you don’t enter any sensitive data you’re good. Besides, 90% of them redirect you to the https version anyway
He made it http. The website supports HTTPS.
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How TF can a brainfuck program throw a memory error? It operates on an infinite array of bytes that wrap around on overflow.
This website prints “Wipp” for the code in the title.
The first thing I do on every install. Delete the bootloader and all the bloat files in /. Especially those goddamned .files
Aaaaannddd again.
Install Linux, drop any and all Microsoft software, you don’t need it
Fuck everything about Microsoft
And lately I’d like to add Google yo this too, but at least google has working and dependable products
This is a bit unrealistic. Games may work better than they did in the past, but performance isn’t 1:1 yet. More importantly, device drivers can be a lot more dicey.
Personally, the main thing keeping me from actually using my Linux partition most of the time is that my mouse buttons can’t be properly rebound. Yeah, I could find some janky work-around, but that would be eating into my workflow.
I also do, in fact, need Windows for development.
GNU is great, but pretending it’s a viable Windows replacement for every use case is just disingenuous. It doesn’t help anyone and it only makes GNU supporters seem that much more out of touch with the average user’s experience.
There are literally people who will think the internet is broken if they accidentally delete their browser shortcut or just straight up can’t find it in the sea of icons on their desktop. These are the users that Windows is protecting from themselves. The same users probably wouldn’t be able to figure out how to use the command line if their life depended on it.
There’s a place for Windows, and there’s a place for GNU. I’d love to see the place for GNU expand and the place for Windows shrink, but that doesn’t make it so.
Microsoft seems to think that windows is the solution to all usecases, I think the reverse.
Yes, Linux too has its issues, but I’ve seen major growth in Linux whereas windows had been a steady decline to becoming an ad riddled bloatware machine that you pay for
Windows definitely isn’t the solution for all use cases. There are some use cases for which it’s completely ineffective. There is no one operating system that’s perfect for all use cases.
This feels out-of-touch itself, like you haven’t actually tried in years. Yes, to rebind your mouse buttons, you will have to install a piece of software, and tell it what you want each button to do… Exactly like you have to do in Windows. I haven’t seen any janky work-arounds needed, and the software is a lot more responsive than I was used to in windows with the official logitech software. You don’t need command line in linux any more often than you need to edit the registry in windows - your typical PC user can get by without it just fine and probably should stay away from it. As for game performance, there will always be variability here, but there is no hard and fast rule like “you will lose 20% performance in linux vs windows”. Some stuff may not get along with proton or linux (big one is some of the “bad actor” anti-cheat stuff, as mentioned elsewhere in this thread that just won’t work at all), but the vast majority is running great under linux - imperceptibly different, if it is even different at all. Finally, there are plenty of distros that will handle all the drivers you need with little to no input from the user. One of the primary selling points of PopOS is fantastic graphics driver support “out of the box”, but they aren’t alone - many make the process invisible or butter smooth.
I always love how many people that don’t use linux to do ‘X’ thing, feel the need to tell people that do use linux every day for ‘X’ how bad linux is at doing ‘X’… People going into windows specific communities and shouting about how bad windows is for ‘X’ or ‘Y’ task would be shunned to oblivion if not outright banned, but they come into the linux communities every day to tell us how bad linux is??
I emailed the dev who makes Solaar less than a month ago after my most recent attempt. They said clicking and holding would be on Logitech’s end, in their firmware. As the firmware stands currently, it’s not possible to rebind those particular buttons and click and hold them unless you rebind them to other buttons already on the mouse. Works in Logitech Options + on Windows, does not work through Solaar on any Linux distro.
I attempted to contact the Logitech devs, but there doesn’t seem to be any open avenue for doing so. I tried talking to Logitech support, but they weren’t able to put me in contact or even forward a message.
So yes, I have tried this recently. And literally the person who makes the software I’m trying to use has told me that my use case is not currently possible without some sort of workaround.
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Linux is less dependable and less stable
Yeah, you’re just trolling now. Linux desktops get installed, then work, and just keep working. I’ve had a Linux Desktop for over 20 years now, I’ve supported Linux and windows desktops for a similar amount of time and I can easily tell you you’re full of shit.
Yes, Linux has issues like everything, but nothing has issues like a Microsoft windows desktop.
It’s the windows machines that are always at risk for the next virus or shit, it’s the windows machine where next up the virus scanner makes the machine unstable and un dependable. It’s the windows machine where half the shit always works, well, half.
Many apps? Yeah sure dude, “Linux doesn’t have many apps.” Is one of those vague "I have shit idea what I’m talking about"statements
“Many devices” 20 years of Linux and I can tell you that Linux has more devices supportrd out of the box than windows. Yes, there may be some niche hardware that isn’t supported but if you really need that, ask the vendor.
Most games don’t support Linux.
everything except games with anticheats that intentionally block linux/wine works
This guy is correct
It takes a lil work, but with proton, lutris, etc, pretty much everything runs, except games with anti heat such as Destiny.
Sure, it’s not as easy as running an exe, but… it’s getting there.
So basically any competitive online game is out.
some anticheats support linux.
you van play like half of these games
I really like PubG though
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Muh games
I swear I’ve seen this meme like 10 times
Rookie numbers. Between Reddit, Twitter and Lemmy, I’m at 50+ right now.
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Bailing out, you are on your own now. Good luck.
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you can’t do this with edge.
Terminal:
cd/ cd %Program Files (x86)%\Microsoft\Edge\Application\EDGEVERSIONNUMBER\Installer setup --uninstall --force-uninstall --system-levelor
Powershell:
get-appxpackage *edge* Remove-appxpackageI know you guys foam at the mouth every time you see how much market share Windows has, but at least use valid arguments as to why you think your specific branch of Linux is superior.
I think the drama is the result of intent, not theoretical possibility for someone who knows a workaround. The difference is that Microsoft obviously doesn’t WANT you to uninstall edge, and makes it artificially more difficult to do so than 3rd party browsers, despite your ownership of the computer.
Does Linux want you to remove the bootloader? Cause that is what the post is claiming then.
Windows is a lot more idiot proof, that is why it is so popular with non-techies. T’is a feature, not a bug.
Yeah, because only an idiot would want to get rid of Edge. Obviously.
i use windows myself, because vr gaming sux on linux. and i can’t uninstall edge. tried everything and i always get permission denied.
You’d get the same permission denied in Linux if you tried to remove the bootloader. You just don’t have permissions, my man.
Press the Windows key, type “Powershell”, right click “Windows Powershell” and click “Run as administrator”. Then use the commands listed above.
i always run povershell and command line as admin. even if i don’t need admin privileges.
Back when Windows 98 just released and I was a kid, my friend’s dad used his Acer boot CD to boot into DOS and rename the Windows directory to Linux.
Please, have mercy, I have seen this meme sooo many times already…
C is the same. Free to do whatever you want until the system stops you. Yet people hate coding in C for some reason, as there isn’t enough hand holding.
Where C stop, continue in Assembly!
Where Assembly stops, run an opcode fuzzer to locate undocumented instructions.
return to monk and code in machine code
Assembly IS machine code, just with with mnemonics
isn’t assembly code sent throu an assembler to get machine code ? i’m gonna ask google again brb edit the explanation i found:
Both machine and assembly languages are low-level programming languages used to write programs. Machine language is the binary code computers understand and execute directly, while assembly language is a human-readable machine language representation
while assembly language is a human-readable machine language representation
Yep. Same thing, but with letters.
I recognized it as Brainfuck, but assumed it was going to be a fork bomb for some reason.
You can’t fork in brainfuck 🤣 but I was thinking it was going to be a non-terminating program.
(I ran it and it actually outputs
Wipp… which I’m now left wondering the meaning of.)Good to know, I’ve never done enough with Brainfuck to know anything more than basic info about it.
Brainfuck can only print and compute :)
I misidentified it as regex somehow.
I’m pretty sure it’s Kricketunes cry in text format
Uninstalling the bootloader will brick your device.
Are you sure you want to uninstall the bootloader?Society has stopped to extremes.
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