• Barbarian@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    I don’t know how you could train people to get out of their cars. The whole situation is bus-ted. Perhaps there’s subway to do it, but I’m at a loss as to how.

    We need some action from the bike-ameral legal system. Currently, supporters of public transit are underground, but they need to expose car-centric planning as the utter tram it is.

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      2 months ago

      I just came up with a thought the other day! This would be a decades long approach and I have no idea if it would work. The idea is for generic American cities, that have a few sky scrapers in a downtown and then the burbs.

      Start with 3-5 square blocks in the heart of downtown and close the roads. Make them permanently pedestrian only. These roads are typically very wide, so allow food trucks/vendors to occupy a portion of the center. Add bike lanes, and add really good reliable public transit around this area. Let that marinate for a few years, then add another chunk of the same size.

      I think you would see this portion of the city become a very popular residential area. Businesses will figure out how to provide amenities where people gather. By starting small you are not requireing people to get rid of their cars, just not use them in certain areas. As this expands you will have a larger and larger portion of the population that finds it inconvenient and expensive to own a car once their needs are met in this ever expanding bubble.

      I doubt you could ever get this done, but it’s an idea!

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        2 months ago

        Yup. Shit, one time I DID take the train up to the city to see a concert. Bit me in the ass hard when I got back to the train station JUST in time to see the last train of the night literally pulling away before my eyes. That was an expensive Uber…

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          And that’s when you have a train at all. My state has two professional football teams and no internal commuter rail

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            2 months ago

            I dunno Chicago is pretty great. We have both kinds of trans and it’s so kinds of awesome generally speaking

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              2 months ago

              My experience was in Chicago. The train system is pretty good, but it still closes at the end of the night. The concert was at wrigley and I booked it straight to the Metra station afterwards, still missed it.

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                2 months ago

                Yeah the Metra is a commuter rail - it runs to and from the city and suburbs. It doesn’t run all night long - few, if any, commuter rail lines would waste enormous amounts of cash to run that way.

                The suburbs are shit. If you want reliable transportation day and night, you need population density to support it. Ergo - you need to live in an actual city - not suburban sprawl.