I think we all owe The Marvels an apology…

  • Rei@piefed.social
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    7 hours ago

    CinemaScore also gave these scores:
    Catwoman: B The Crow (2024): B-
    Madame Web: C+
    Batman & Robin: C+
    Morbius: C+
    Fantastic Four (2015): C-
    Borderlands: D+

    They seem really generous with their scoring

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      3 hours ago

      Madame Web was the most fun I’ve had in a theater since before the pandemic. I did not outlast 10 other people in that theater just to allow someone to slander that masterpiece!

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      7 hours ago

      They seem really generous with their scoring

      CinemaScore polls audiences and presents that data in the form of an A to F rating. They don’t do subjective ratings or reviews. The score is intended to be a measure of the average audience sentiment to a film.

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        7 hours ago

        Yeah, I read that on there; I guess I should have said the audiences they polled are really generous with their scoring

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    6 hours ago

    Audience score ratings for the sequel of a well received film. People are giving a score based on a higher expectation going in compared to the original. The bigger they are the harder they fall sort of thing.

    I’m just speculating. And still hopeful I might enjoy it, though I’m not a huge fan of Lady Gaga

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      2 hours ago

      Having watched both I would much rather watch both Joker movies several times than any of the suicide squads movies. None are perfect but if you know the story and where the character is supposed to exist it’s a good story across both.

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        25 minutes ago

        You didn’t like the newest suicide squad? I found that very enjoyable, and the spin off series peacemaker is great imo.

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      6 hours ago

      I’ve just seen it. It’s better than the reviews would suggest, but it’s not without flaws or quirks.

      If you went into it expecting ‘more of Joker 1’ in terms of a straight, by the numbers sequel, you might very well come out disappointed. And there’s no denying that there’s a lot of singing in it, which inherently puts some people off. But if you’re willing to have an open mind, there’s a lot to love here.

      I’ve seen terribly reviewed movies that I loved and well reviewed movies that I’ve hated. At the end of the day, it’s all someone else’s opinion anyway.

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      8 hours ago

      First one was depressing. Awfully depressing. It was poignant and well done but I can’t rewatch it because I have to gear up to be ready for it.

      The second one is a musical. I’m not sure anyone is ready for that after the first one.

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        7 hours ago

        It’s weird. I watch the first Joker like three times so far. Haven’t seen the second. Now, Requiem for a Dream, that’s a hard watch for me.

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          5 hours ago

          I put Requiem in the category movies of “Best Films I’ll Never See Again”. “The Skin I Live In” is in there too.

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          7 hours ago

          Requiem is presented well, but I can’t get past the unrealistic situations they put the characters through, especially near the end.

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      First film was a great film if it were new IP, but a shit joker batman film. The second film was always likely to be shit, because they were always going for abstract and avant garde artistry without a clear connection to the underlying and far stronger story and IP people are expecting. I’m sure it’s a beautiful film and musical, but it’s dog shit attached to joker.

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        I didn’t even view the first as anything related to Batman. Just a standalone movie to me.

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          5 hours ago

          I think a lot of the Batman connections were completely unnecessary and felt jarring. There weren’t that many and they were brief but I just wish they weren’t there at all. It’s a great film flaws and all to me.

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          That’s what it was supposed to be, a gritty disconnected story about what a more realistic take on a joker would be, don’t think batman or super heroes was supposed to be in either one, not sure where that commenter is coming from.

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            There is Bruce Wayne in the first one. He is the rich guy the main character meets in the public toilets then go stalk at his house.

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              Bruce and Thomas Wayne were in the movies yes, they are part of that universe but it is not a superhero batman film or in that universe which is what I had mentioned

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                But that’s not the point.

                Batman is a presence. The Wayne’s as a story element, they are supposed to be moral & ethical pillars. Solid truth. Batman does not kill and preserves an ethical truth.

                All while the joker is a shifting description… an unreliable narrator. not a pillar not anything solid or true. The villains can shift and don’t have to hold true to anything. The killing joke is all about the lie and shifting excuses…

                The movie may suck but a shifty joker hasn’t traditionally been the reason.