cross-posted from: https://lemmit.online/post/4802929
TIL A restaurant in Long Beach, CA, was found to be serving Popeye’s chicken and passing it off as their own. They would buy the chicken at Popeyes and upcharge for their own chicken and waffles d…
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Original Title: TIL A restaurant in Long Beach, CA, was found to be serving Popeye’s chicken and passing it off as their own. They would buy the chicken at Popeyes and upcharge for their own chicken and waffles dish. Once found out the owner refused to apologize.
True, but they only expressed their dislike of meat in terms of sustainability.
It is possible to be healthy while vegan, about 20% of India is vegetarian. So 200m people. I’m sure some of them are doing ok.
I think, however, it’s very difficult to do. Saying nobody should eat meat is a undefendable position (how many vegans have cats? Cats are obligate carnivores)
You are reading way too much into what I wrote.
I don’t disagree with the ideas, I disagree with the self-righteousness and arrogance. Which seems to be extremely common among vegans.
The same can be said about feminists and abolitionists.
abolitionists and feminists fight against comparing slaves and women to animals.
Speciesism fuels racism and sexism.
veganism was invented in the 1940s. abolition and feminism didn’t need veganism to make significant progress, and until the mid 20th century, none of them were vegan anyway.
it’s hard for me to imagine that veganism is a necessary facet of any liberatory struggle.
People believed in animal rights for hundreds of years before 1944 think of the Jains and al-Ma’arri.
What we do to animals leads to human cruelty. The idea of controlling others and using them for our own purposes stems entirely from animal husbandry.
you can’t prove this.
Taking away someone’s autonomy, forcing them to do things they don’t want to do, pushing them to have offspring, lying that someone who is different doesn’t feel pain, the stealing of babies, the forced labour, the in-humane conditions, the punching and kicking that’s involved with both family farms and factory farms, the the gassing of the victims, the slicing of someone’s throat.
Jains don’t believe in animal rights. I don’t know the alma’arri, but I do know that it was mostly people advocating for their own full humanity that won them progress.
Now you’re just proving that you know less about this topic than you think you do. Jains almost completely refuse to eat animal products and they walk a certain way to prevent potentially harming microbes. They’ve have been advocating for animal rights for over 2500 years and were first ones to open animal shelters in India.
al-Ma’arri was a philosopher, he was regarded as the one the earliest animal advocates in history.
Now there’s an utterly meaningless statement.
So the “self-righteousness and arrogance” was entirely projection.
Edit: You didn’t like the comparison because it made you realize your own hypocrisy.
Another completely meaningless statement. You’re really on a roll!
Lemme guess… vegan?
You’re deep into the speciesist bias.
Do you consider vegans to be different species? I often get that vibe from y’all: “We are the superior species and use our superior morality and intellect to rise far above ordinary animals”.
You shouldn’t put people on a pedestal. Vegans are just like you but with different values.