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Lmao, I blocked him so long ago I forgot about his existence. Now look what you brought there, a forgottenone!
Yogthos is either a fully paid professional propagandist or a highly skilled amateur. Probably the latter.
I’d call him(?) the single worst person of lemmy for the reason that every time he speaks of things that have nothing to do with politics, he seems like an absolutely cool dude. I remember even that in the first weeks of Russia’s aggression on Ukraine, he was being kinda somber and realistic about it. But then The Message somehow reached him and he started spouting Russia’s propaganda at full blast. He’s clearly intelligent and literate while doing this, which is just doubly sad.
In him, Communism has completely ruined a perfectly good person, and it’s a tragedy every time it happens.
Lmao, it’s yogthos. Canada’s most notorious freedom fighter lmao.
/s.
That dip couldn’t find the freedom he is “fighting” for if Marx drew him a map with directions.
Yeah, the reason he’s so happy about everything Russia does is that he’s a software engineer with over a decade of experience living in Canada, he’s living the cozy life and literally never going back to Russia because he’s way too soft for that at this point.
That particular post also got me banned from the community. I said something to the tune that I’ll agree with the state department on China, North Korea and Russia/Ukraine, but disagree on Cuba and Israel/Palestine, which probably makes me more of a leftist than all those dictator simping tankies. Someone did not like me pointing that out.
You ever point out to those people that Russia and China are very much NOT communist countries nowadays and people only simp for them because it’s opposition to American global hegemony… Yeah you’ll just get banned. I’ve been banned from .ml memes AND hexbear memes communities by now.
Yogthos is always here to provide the shittiest of takes and the most phallical of fallacies.
It almost feels like posting yogthos is cheating
I honestly can’t tell if these .ml guys in these discussions are trolling or just spouting retarded nonsense and calling everyone a Nazi for the sake of it
I wonder how many of them work in russia and china. their shittakes are hilariously tanky
Hey, no judgement, but we’re trying to cut down use of the r-term around here, as a courtesy to those who it’s been used to unfairly hurt. Just for future reference.
And on and on the euphemism train goes, where’s the next stop? There’s going to be a slur for the mentally deficient, tell me which one you endorse.
Fuck’s sake.
None. Don’t insult people over stuff they can’t control. Call them ignorant shitheads not ugly/retarded/etc.
Yogthos drank the vatnik koolaid.
The best part is that he is a very well paid software engineer living in ThE WeSt.
Couldn’t be more of a hypocrite if he fuckin’ tried.
When in ml, do as the red fascists do.
Yogthos is a clown
I dont get how tankies can support a “communist” nation like China that has an investor class and whose system requires the mistreatment of the proletariat.
The “Party” sits above the “Money” in their power structure, unlike most of the Capitalist countries nowadays were (after 4 decades of Neoliberalism) Money is a power above that of the State (and remember, the State is what the voters supposedly control in Democracy, so that means that Money is a higher power than Democracy, which is why many have pointed out that countries like the US are Oligarchies not Democracies).
And, for reference, in Fascism too (or, in fact, all other Autocratic systems) the State sits above Money, so I’m hardly saying that by itself that is enough to make that system good
The real hypocrisy of tankies, IMHO, is that the “Communist” nations they support in a tribalist way still have elites, they’re just not chosen via Money but instead via ability of climbing up the Party ranks (so Cronyism and Sociopathy) whilst genuine Leftwing thinking is about Equality, the very opposite of there being people who get privileged treatment for any reason other than need (that reason being money as in Capitalist system or something else is quite irrelevant in Leftwing thinking)
If you just see them as tribalists wedded to an ideology shaped by a specific kind of elites who use a specific kind of slogans around Equality to support the continuation of the structure that maintains their elite privileges, (which is parallel to what’s done in Capitalism which similarly has the whole bullshit about how wealth is the product of merit to justify discrimination based on wealth) you can understand why tankies would think what they do about China.
They’re still mindless simpleton tribalists, but it’s interesting to understand how using as foundation for ones own judgement an ideology controlled by somebody else without doing at the very least some analysing of it just as easily yields a tankie, a Fascist or a (Neo)liberal depending on which ideological bundle of slogans they’ve unquestioningly adopted.
“Because they’ll eventually take away their wealth or kill them” is an argument I’ve actually seen on .ml. I’m not against the sentiment of getting rid of the capitalists but cmon, when someone says China isn’t socialist and points at a clearly capitalist behavior you can’t be “it’s still socialist because the capitalist thing will be fixed in the future”. Then every country might as well be socialist, we’ll just fix capitalism at some later date.
At least China goes through the motions of being Communist. They also somehow support 21st century Russia which is just openly an authoritarian oligarchy.
My ‘favorite’ is when they defend clerical fascism in Iran as some kind of fantastic anti-capitalist development,
The leftists allied with the religious nutjobs in the revolution, then got murdered immediately afterwards because the religious nutjobs didn’t want a leftist government that tolerated religion, they wanted an authoritarian theocracy. Some people somehow think that any leftist-backed revolution always goes brilliantly and ends up with utopian socialism or communism and no one ever exploits the post-revolutionary power vacuum for their own ends. That isn’t compatible with what happened, so instead, they must believe that the leftists survived being murdered and now run Iran.
Communists also literally do not care about democracy and seem to strongly believe that if anyone in the country wants something pretty socialist then than justifies overruling the reat of the country with all the military power it can muster if neecessary.
As a side note Islamic theocracy is immune to fascism given the fact that the ideal state in Islam is a theocracy. Theocracies and fascism are incompatible due to the supremacy of the faith in one vs the other.
Iran is just another theocratic totalitarian state. They are not fascists.
Don’t worry, someone will be along shortly to recommend 2000 pages of communist literature that wouldn’t even prove their point even if you read it all.
Because they don’t support communism. They just like one version of ogliarchy better than the other.
They’re authoritarians not communists ie. the ole schtick.
This war has nothing to do with any people’s right to self determination. It is a clash between two imperialist powers. Russia’s actions are criminal and cruel and it needs to be stopped. The same goes for China and even more so the DPRK. But the fastest way to do so is to end the war asap. Just because one imperialism is less atrocious doesn’t mean it should be a permissible leftist policy to support imperialism. That’s what the socdems did in Europe in 1914, and it cost the working class a golden opportunity to revolt. In an imperialist war, the left should always want their own bourgeois state to lose, because it weakens it and makes it easier to topple. On neither side is it the ruling class that is suffering and dying - it’s working class people with their views clouded by nationalism, propaganda, and the promise of money or freedom from prison.
What Karl Liebknecht said over 100 years ago has lost nothing of its truth - The main enemy is at home.
In an imperialist war, the left should always want their own bourgeois state to lose, because it weakens it and makes it easier to topple.
Ah, so Poland should have craved defeat when invaded by Nazi Germany?
That’s the true proletarian view, right?
So you support full scale mobilisation of NATO to match on Moscow right? That’d end the war right quick.
I know you’re trying to be sarcastic, but you’re actually just showing that you didn’t read my comment. I d o n o t s u p p o r t e i t h e r e m p i r e. Besides, when has a European force marching on Moscow ever ended in a quick victory for the European power?
I d o n o t s u p p o r t e i t h e r e m p i r e.
Yet apparently, you only support resolutions which result in the Russian empire being allowed to continue its genocide unabated, I guess because Ukrainian lives are devalued by being part of the Western Empire or the Imperial Core™ or whatever the buzzword of the day is.
Yogthos is the kind of piece of shit that “critically supports” bombing Ukrainian kindergartens and maternity wards as long as, somewhere in the world, at least one Western tear is shed over it. Blocking them makes the fediverse far less unpleasant.
Wonder why that user account is above the rules of the instance and its communities. The modlog is full of examples which should apply to their behavior as well
Lemmy.ml has banned him a couple of times for short periods though. Lemmygrad.ml is obviously perfectly ok with everything he’s saying. Some instances (such as the one I’m using) have also blocked him permanently.
They’re a mod of several .ml communities. Just like every communist dictatorship, laws and rules don’t matter when it’s the one in charge breaking them.
Let’s not pander the charade of that being communism
Perhaps there should be a new word for this communism that doesn’t oppress
Isn’t it just Marxism or communism.
Like democracy doesn’t have a new word because some people oppress in the name of it
One of the best decisions I’ve made
Heh, he is pretty accurate in this =)
Wut? Was he talking about the previous Ukrainian government, sponsored by Russia™? I can’t make sense of what he is saying, actually.
Dude doesn’t know about Euromaidan. I wish some of these children would go to russia.
They like the idea of Russia, not actual Russia.
I had to reread it a few times myself, but I’m pretty sure that’s what he’s talkin about
Because everyone knows Russia is well known for their totally legit free and fair elections/s
i got a veteran friend who would not take kindly to people saying her country should be permanently tied to a country whose name she refuses to spell correctly. the .ml tankists have, apparently, no concept of a false flag operation
When Russia interferes, it’s fair and democratic elections, when the weat spens a few million on pro-democracy and anti-corruption initiatives it’s Western election interference and bad.
When Russia interferes, it’s fair and democratic elections, when the west spens a few million on pro-democracy and anti-corruption initiatives it’s Western election interference and bad.
Or they argue in bad faith.
I hope so because I don’t want to believe people can be so stupid they can probably not breathe and walk simultaneously.
Average Yogthos verbal vomit.
Huh. And here I thought Yogthos was a Chinese plant. Turns out they like the taste of Russian leather just the same.
Frankly I suspect many pinch hit for both teams.
