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edit: As I’m seeing a lot of worry about the impact this will/could have on the community, please be assured we have the same mod team, and will be holding the community to the same standards. the same things that were always allowed will continue to be allowed and the same things that got things removed before will continue to get things removed before. Lemmy.world admins have agreed to allow us to run our community on our terms. It is my pleasure to announce that effective immediately, we are transferring our community to Lemmy.world! This has been a few months in the making, so my entire mod team is already on board. FAQ: Why? That’s a complicated question with a long answer! The primary difference is moderatorial and ideologial differences between my team and Ada’s excellent team of admins. We are on good terms with Ada and her team, and have gotten her consent to do this. In addition to this, we have had ongoing issues with federation and moderation that has caused a subpar experience for many people on other instances. How does this work? Currently, as there is not an easy way to transfer an entire community (trust me, we checked), we are locking the community as mod-only, and moving our focus to the 196 on lemmy.world. For you guys, functionally nothing has changed. What about the posts? Well, we tried to transfer them, but there was no real way to do so without absolutely destroying lemmy.world’s federation. For this reason, we are simply archiving this community as mod-only. Everything is staying up, you just won’t be able to post new content. Comments are still enabled, so we will continue to check our modlogs for some time after the transfer has settled. As for the posts on lemmy.world’s 196, we’re leaving those up too. From this point onwards, all posts made to that community are beholden to the rules you are all used to, but anything pre-existing is getting grandfathered in.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE PUT THEM IN THE COMMENTS OF THIS POST, AND I’LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THEM. Once again, here’s the link to our new apartment of awesome. (universal: !196@lemmy.world)

  • TheSlad@sh.itjust.works
    919·
    7 hours ago

    Maybe because of the whole “respect all user-specified-pronouns no matter how ridiculous they are” instance rule that was added a few weeks ago?

    • Serinus@lemmy.world
      83·
      4 hours ago

      To put this another way, does respecting “dragonfucker’s” requested pronouns of “drag” and “drag” do more good or more harm for the community?

      • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgEnglish
        24·
        3 hours ago

        To put this another way, does respecting “dragonfucker’s” requested pronouns of “drag” and “drag” do more good or more harm for the community?

        Pronouns are not negotiable. Considering that pronouns are “deserved” is an easy path to limit their use to other conditions.

        Drag is known to be a troll, and should be banned for trolling when relevant. That doesn’t have much to do with pronouns, those are two separate matters.

      • TheSlad@sh.itjust.works
        21·
        1 hour ago

        I make no argument either way. Not my monkeys, not my circus. All I know is that people were being banned just for pointing out why they didnt like the rule and it caused a lot of controversy.

        • Serinus@lemmy.world
          23·
          2 hours ago

          Is “drag” a pronoun? Either way, my personal stance doesn’t have much bearing on the argument.

          • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            101·
            2 hours ago

            If someone uses it as one, yeah it is.

            Your personal stance, being that you are a community team member of LW, has a lot to do with it. That’s who I’m asking, not you the person.

            • Serinus@lemmy.world
              21·
              2 hours ago

              I don’t have an official position on it. Am I allowed to participate here as a person?

              • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                91·
                2 hours ago

                You and LW are allowed to do whatever you want, you just shouldn’t be surprised when making borderline transphobic statements and refusing to clarify reflects badly on the instance.

                • Serinus@lemmy.world
                  21·
                  2 hours ago

                  That’s a valid suggestion, and I’ve thought about it in the past, both for me and for other mods. The biggest downside is that using separate accounts would absolutely reduce responsiveness. I’ll see notifications on my personal account much faster than I would if I were using alternate accounts.

                  For moderators, currently I think the ease and responsiveness of using one account outweighs the benefits of separating official and personal accounts. Though there is an argument.

          • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            91·
            2 hours ago

            https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/20091173

            To quote Ada:

            I’ve been waiting until after Christmas day to make this post, but some of our communities recently have had a lot of noise and upset over someone that uses neopronouns that most people are unfamiliar with.

            So I want to make this clear. A persons pronouns are to be respected. This is true when the user is using neopronouns that you’re unfamiliar with. It’s true even if you think someone is trolling. Pronouns are not rewards for good behaviour. They aren’t only to be respected when you like the person you’re interacting with, or if their pronouns “make sense” to you. Trolls, spammers, twitter users, it doesn’t matter who they are, your options are to respect their pronouns, or to not engage with them.

            I really want to re-iterate the importance of this. Gender diverse folk are undermined, invalidated and questioned at every step of our lives. As a community, we need to be working to undo that, not creating more of it, and that means there is no space for treating pronouns (including neopronouns) as a reward for good behaviour.

            This isn’t a free reign for trolls and spammers. The rules still apply. Trolling, spamming, etc will continue to be dealt with, but it’s not an excuse to act as if respecting someones pronouns is optional.

            The added emphasis in bold is mine to make clear how easy it is to avoid this.

    • TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      7·
      6 hours ago

      196 mods were working on doing this even before that, but that was actually not the first time that Ada had to make an announcement post about that exact policy. I saw it first come up in Blahaj Meta many months ago in the events that eventually led to me taking a mod position at LibertyHub