• doctordevice@lemmy.ca
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    3 hours ago

    Lol, you wanna square this “oh I’m on the same side as you” with your immediate attack on me based on nothing but your assumption? Because I can’t figure out what in my original response you disagree with if what you say here is true. You just immediately went full neoliberal attack on any criticism of the Democrats, so frankly I don’t buy your bullshit here.

    8 years is how long the Democrats have been openly and unashamedly thumbing the scale in their primaries (starting in 2016) and the start of the progressive movement, it’s not a competition.

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      17 minutes ago

      So, the initial premise is: there are a large segment of voters who purposefully, deliberately, did not vote because they wanted to “send the Democrats a message” or some idiot thing like that. They supported trump in doing so, and despite having that explained in every language and manner possibly available, they still sat at home while the faithful chuds drove their unfathomably large trucks to the polls as expected.

      So you come in with “Yeah but the Democrats do suck” and I assumed you were saying “it is right and proper not to vote” which - no. But then you did vote so - well, okay.

      And fwiw I think your “thumb on the scale” is not very accurate with the notable and egregious exception of the DWS years which led to her immediate ousting and we never want to see that shit again. 2020 Biden had his primary and whoever your candidate was (assuming Bernie?) had their run to win that and didn’t. A dark horse often emerges in the primaries, that’s how we got Clinton. In 2024, Biden made the unfortunate decision to run again and that threw everything off because there wouldn’t be a proper primary, until the debate performance convinced him to withdraw. In that case there simply wasn’t time for a national primary again, without creating and/or bending a bunch of rules that essentially allowed for an emergency nationwide all-at-once vote just for Democrats to pick the next candidate which was never going to happen and shouldn’t.

      That said, I’ve seen more than my fill of milquetoast men with nice hair and kakhi pants try to be Reagan lite and can’t stomach anything more like that. This bullshit with Pelosi denying AOC of House Oversight is a similar piece of bullshit. I expect four years of Democrats putting out press releases of being “very concerned” and doing jack shit in public, in the press, like they should. The ones who have already turned traitor for the cabinet picks are on the list. But we’ll see. Maybe we can balance things in two years. It depends if some of these idiot fucks get out and vote this time.