Although personally in favor of Palestinian independence and critical of war crimes committed by Israel in its siege of Gaza, I attempted to explain in a back-and-forth discussion with a user (only afterwards learning was one of the community’s two moderators) why protest voting in the 2024 election to “punish” the democrats in favor of the republicans harmed the ultimate interest of reigning in Israeli violence in Palestine.

To further emphasize the damage caused by such a protest vote, I argued that not only is Palestine worse off with Trump elected instead of Harris, but as are a myriad of other social issues. The other user disagreed, arguing that Trump’s return to office facilitated the ceasefire, rather than my argument that Netanyahu deliberately delayed it to help Trump get elected.

After my fourth reply post in a reply chain that stemmed from my initial reply to the moderator’s comment, I was banned from !palestine@lemm.ee. Having at no point advocated in favor of the violence perpetuated by Israel in Gaza, I think the ban was unjustified, and demonstrates a bad precedent for maintaining echo chambers of moderator opinions, rather than communities that foster discussion.

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    Do you think not choosing either evil somehow prevents both? I would fucking love if it worked like that, but it doesn’t. There are only two possible outcomes. You either receive the greater evil or the lesser evil.

    I want as little evil as possible, so I choose the lesser evil. If you don’t choose the lesser evil, you’re saying you don’t care how much evil there is in the world, and you allow the greater evil. Why would you choose to allow the greater evil?

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      That’s some real neoliberal bullshit. You lot have absolutely lost it, you know that? You’re straight up admitting your candidate is evil, and moralizing it like you’re the good guys. Yeah, you got me, Harris would have killed brown people a little slower. Congrats, that’s the fucking bar for politicians you’ve set. You’re never going to get anyone who isn’t an absolute monster, and you’re apparently perfectly fine with that, because it lets you be a smug little shit on social media.

      I don’t have any respect for you as a human being, if that’s your attitude. Evil is evil, and your support of that evil makes you just as evil as the ones dropping the bombs. Those dead Palestinians? Their blood is on your hands, for refusing to demand the “greatest nation on earth” be a little bit better than nazi Germany.

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        because it lets you be a smug little shit on social media.

        I find it funny you said that.

        be a little bit better than nazi Germany.

        I also find this funny. There was a choice between “a little bit better than nazi Germany” and “nazi Germany.” You let “nazi Germany” win, then condemned everyone who supported “a little bit better than nazi Germany.”

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          You obviously can’t read, dumbass. I said you wouldn’t demand your candidate be a little better than nazi Germany. You gave us the choice between nazi Germany, and someone who thought nazi Germany didn’t go far enough. Naturally, I did the only thing I could, and voted for Harris, since she wanted to kill brown people a little slower and I thought maybe we could protest hard enough she would stop being a fucking piece of shit liberal and actually stand up to Israel.

          Meanwhile, you sat at home and voted for nobody, because democrats don’t give a shit about people who aren’t white. Now be a good little nazi and take that neoliberal bullshit back to lemmy.world.

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            No you didn’t. You said you wanted the “greatest nation on earth” to be better than nazi Germany, not the political party. Why am I the only one who’s read your comments?

            Please stop making things up about me. I’m British. It’s impossible for me to have voted, and impossible for you to have known if I voted or not.

            But if I could, I would have done what you did, which is what I said to do from the very start, and voted for the lesser evil. Why the fuck are you trying to act superior for doing the same thing you’re condemning?

            Honestly? Given how vocal you are against Trump’s opponents, how bad-faith your arguments are, how often you insult people (with ablist language, too), and how you seem to treat the word “liberal” like a bad thing, you sound more like a Nazi than anyone else. And I block Nazis, soooooo…

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              Oh no, another liberal adherent to the horseshoe philosophy is gonna block me, oh no, how terrible. Better do it quick, it’s almost time for brunch, you milquetoast, wine-drinking, nazi enabler.