So, I saw a report from one of my users. They reported:

https://ponder.cat/post/1594852/1813842

For the reason:

Unreasonable fighting with everyone in every simple post

I think that’s ridiculous, so I talked with them about it. Posting private communications is frowned upon I guess, but long story short, they weren’t receptive. I’ve decided to ban the account.

IMO the general culture on Lemmy is that users are entitled to their free account and everyone needs to be careful and circumspect about limiting that entitlement in any way, but I don’t see it that way. I don’t think it’s a requirement for me to provide hosting space for anyone who wants to use my stuff as a jumping-off point for abuse of Lemmy’s systems, and isn’t apologetic or receptive when I talk with them about not doing that. The fact that it’s in service of harassing FlyingSquid in particular is just icing on the cake, since my perception is that people like to harass him apparently for no legitimate reason at all (with this as an example).

AITA?

  • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catOP
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    15 hours ago

    That’s actually not true. People overuse the word “gaslighting,” but this is actually a perfect example of the original meaning of the term.

    This is the second time recently he’s “accidentally” posted on something I wrote, and both times, he switched away from one of his commonly-used alts, to a different one that I didn’t have blocked, right before posting. I can, if you want me to, send you the output of this from my system:

    Huge SQL query
    WITH target_people AS (
      SELECT id, actor_id
      FROM person
      WHERE name LIKE '%UniversalMonk%'
    )
    SELECT 
      action_time as timestamp,
      actor_id,
      item_id,
      score,
      creator_actor_id,
      CASE 
        WHEN score IS NULL AND content IS NOT NULL THEN 
          CASE 
            WHEN length(content) > 20 THEN substr(content, 1, 20) || '...'
            ELSE content
          END
        ELSE NULL
      END as content
    FROM (
      -- Comments
      SELECT 
        c.published as action_time,
        p.actor_id,
        c.id as item_id,
        NULL::smallint as score,
        creator.actor_id as creator_actor_id,
        c.content
      FROM comment c
      JOIN target_people p ON c.creator_id = p.id
      LEFT JOIN person creator ON c.creator_id = creator.id
      WHERE NOT c.deleted AND NOT c.removed
    
      UNION ALL
    
      -- Posts
      SELECT 
        p.published as action_time,
        person.actor_id,
        p.id as item_id,
        NULL::smallint as score,
        NULL as creator_actor_id,
        NULL as content
      FROM post p
      JOIN target_people person ON p.creator_id = person.id
      WHERE NOT p.deleted AND NOT p.removed
    
      UNION ALL
    
      -- Comment votes
      SELECT 
        cl.published as action_time,
        p.actor_id,
        cl.comment_id as item_id,
        cl.score,
        creator.actor_id as creator_actor_id,
        c.content
      FROM comment_like cl
      JOIN target_people p ON cl.person_id = p.id
      LEFT JOIN comment c ON cl.comment_id = c.id
      LEFT JOIN person creator ON c.creator_id = creator.id
      WHERE NOT c.deleted AND NOT c.removed
    ) combined_actions
    ORDER BY action_time DESC;
    

     

    So what it shows this time, is UniversalMonk using his sh.itjust.works account and lemmy.dbzer0.com account and nothing else for a few days, including most recently at Feb 12 at 23:27, and then at 23:36, switching to his r.nf account, which I haven’t blocked and which he doesn’t use much, and the first thing he did with it was comment on a post of mine.

    The previous time was actually even a little more egregious. He was using his other accounts (including his lemm.ee one, before that one was banned), then at Feb 4 at 21:04 I made a comment in some thread mentioning the existence of a new alt of his, and he switched from other actions on his mainly-used accounts (most recently at 21:38) and then at 21:39 from his vegantheoryclub.org account, his first action on that account was to post this:

    https://vegantheoryclub.org/comment/1670126

    Then, when I semi-politely told him that he was evading the block (since it was pretty obvious to me that something along the lines of the above had happened, although I didn’t verify it at the time) and asked him not to, he played the exact same game of pretending he had just innocently stumbled across a post of mine and wanted to say something about it, and it was totally unreasonable for me to ask him not to.

    There’s a reason he switches to an account I haven’t blocked right before leaving these comments. And yes, I know it sounds semi-psychotic that I went digging around in the database to verify that he is gaslighting you when he feigns total shock and surprise that he had left a comment under a post by me, pretending it was total coincidence. This is why he keeps getting banned on different instances: His behavior is really very strange, dishonest, and malicious in a kind of unique way.

    Anyway, yes he was block evading on purpose to minorly irritate me. I’m happy to DM you proof excerpts or similar. I know it sounds kind of petty for me to go to this extent, but the other way to look at it is, this is the extent that someone has to go to if they want to not be communicated at by UnviersalMonk. He has a history of targeted harassment of users in the past (which is what got him banned from lemmy.world), and for me he seems to have chosen this kind of “gaslighting and hoping I’ll complain about it, so he can feign innocence and write a big italicized innocent message” approach.