• RedSnt@feddit.dk
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    18 hours ago

    Linux is not that old. There’s a reason why the “Actually it’s GNU+Linux…” meme exists, because Linux is built using tools that were already around, he didn’t start entirely from scratch.

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    I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

    Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

    There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

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      7 hours ago

      @RedSnt @volvoxvsmarla Well… not all of them. There is <strong>at least one</strong> <a href=“https://chimera-linux.org/”>Linux distribution</a> that’s decided to use a BSD userland instead of a GNU one, so I guess it could be called BSD/Linux…

      (and no, I’m not associated with them. Right now I run Ubuntu, but project #3 on my list of personal projects is customizing either CachyOS or OpenMandriva to my taste, complete with custom repos, I haven’t decided yet.)

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        7 hours ago

        Ha, I was just looking up a similar meme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wz9BkzU1zY (It’s about alpine)
        But yeah, it’s actually what I like about linux, and also what I dislike about systemd, the fact that things are interchangable. With regards to systemd, it’s mainly because canonical is the driving force there, I’m distrustful of corpos having too much power of a critical part of the system like that.

        Very interesting distro, I like the name as well. “Chimera” because it’s not like any other OS. Also, never heard of the “dinit” init before, interesting!

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      9 hours ago

      Oof for someone who isn’t tech savvy this was a hard read but I appreciate it!

      My experience with Linux - and as I now know, probably GNU? - is limited to not pressing a button while my dad’s computer at work turned on so that I would end up in not in Windows. He had one amazing game on Linux where some troll had to roll stones (I wish I could find it again). I came to work with him every now and then and was allowed to play while he would half desperately half violently try to get rid of the chaos on his desk, which consisted of about 700 pounds of paper and occasional random paper clips.

      I loved these days. And the canteen’s gravy with rice for some reason.

      (Edit: this was in the mid to late 90s)

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        7 hours ago

        Oof for someone who isn’t tech savvy this was a hard read but I appreciate it!

        I’m sorry, I should’ve clarified, that’s the socalled copypasta/meme I mentioned. But now you’re cursed with the knowledge of it existing.

        I wish I had 90s memories of linux, but in my family it was all microsoft, from DOS to Windows. My uncle was an electrical engineer and was interested in computers, so our family got some hand-me-down PC’s over time, and I probably played Leisure Suit Larry way too young in the early 90s, but I still believe that typing in text commands is a great way of learning a language.
        It wasn’t until 1999 I saw Linux for the first time at school, and later around 2003 I saw it again at a LAN where someone was showing off how fast it could run Unreal Tournament 2003, which was faster than Windows at the time.

        At least there’s still rice and gravy around :)