Sometimes I hear Kevin Smith talking about himself in front of a crowd, and he immediately describes himself as this fat loser… and I always think bro, you’re doing fine - great even - stop putting yourself down in front of others, it makes everyone feel weird.
Ugh, I just had a flashback to middle school, when my very attractive friend (who was already a model) complained that she was ugly because of an itty, bitty little zit she got one day.
Meanwhile I sat there, a relative pizza-face, thinking: Seriously? Ifyouare ugly, what does that make the rest of us?
You’re right, but also, they weren’t faking it. My wife is gorgeous, but every single day we’ve been together she’s announced how fat and ugly she is (she’s neither). It’s a deep mental issue and they really believe that shit. Usually it’s caused by their parents at a young age. My wife’s family is really really gross with young girls. They all start playing in make-up by the age of 2. I’ve already seen it in her poor niece, calling herself ugly… She’s 4 and already has a completely fucked up mentality about beauty and her role in society. It’s soul crushing, and I knew it was going to happen the second she was born. I fear for us having a daughter and them doing this to her enough when I’m not around that she is affected the same way. I really hope I have a son for this reason, honestly.
Fair point, however the family in question won’t be as ignorantly cruel to a son. They’ll probably fuck him up in some other ways, but at least not ones that cause him daily constant dread and depression.
Also I hope things get better for your mental state, I’m sure you’re far more attractive than you believe, just like my wife and the girl in OP.
Yeah well Kevin did weigh 257 pounds and is a successful director, producer, writer and actor… I’m north of 400 and none of those things. But I got other things going for me, so I’m okay with being a fat ugly loser, I’m winning what’s important to me.
Well I’m probably reading too much into it, but I just think that being publicly revulsed by yourself, even in jest, teaches others how to treat you.
I know that going the other way is the path to narcissism/arrogance, and pointing out your faults keeps you humble and telegraphs that you have no defences because you dont need any… but I think that works only if you assume that people dont take others at face value. Which we all unfortunately do.
Not really sure what I’m advising here, or what the middleground exactly is here, but hopefully you can see where I’m coming from
Both directions of it are defense mechanisms. And ime it’s better to go the jokingly overconfident route than the self depreciation route, though I find a bit of both to be fun. That said here his self depreciation serves his argument.
Sometimes I hear Kevin Smith talking about himself in front of a crowd, and he immediately describes himself as this fat loser… and I always think bro, you’re doing fine - great even - stop putting yourself down in front of others, it makes everyone feel weird.
Ugh, I just had a flashback to middle school, when my very attractive friend (who was already a model) complained that she was ugly because of an itty, bitty little zit she got one day.
Meanwhile I sat there, a relative pizza-face, thinking: Seriously? If you are ugly, what does that make the rest of us?
You’re right, but also, they weren’t faking it. My wife is gorgeous, but every single day we’ve been together she’s announced how fat and ugly she is (she’s neither). It’s a deep mental issue and they really believe that shit. Usually it’s caused by their parents at a young age. My wife’s family is really really gross with young girls. They all start playing in make-up by the age of 2. I’ve already seen it in her poor niece, calling herself ugly… She’s 4 and already has a completely fucked up mentality about beauty and her role in society. It’s soul crushing, and I knew it was going to happen the second she was born. I fear for us having a daughter and them doing this to her enough when I’m not around that she is affected the same way. I really hope I have a son for this reason, honestly.
Um, I hate to break it to you, but sons will think the same thing about themselves and simply not mention it. Source: me
Fair point, however the family in question won’t be as ignorantly cruel to a son. They’ll probably fuck him up in some other ways, but at least not ones that cause him daily constant dread and depression.
Also I hope things get better for your mental state, I’m sure you’re far more attractive than you believe, just like my wife and the girl in OP.
Yeah well Kevin did weigh 257 pounds and is a successful director, producer, writer and actor… I’m north of 400 and none of those things. But I got other things going for me, so I’m okay with being a fat ugly loser, I’m winning what’s important to me.
Well I’m probably reading too much into it, but I just think that being publicly revulsed by yourself, even in jest, teaches others how to treat you.
I know that going the other way is the path to narcissism/arrogance, and pointing out your faults keeps you humble and telegraphs that you have no defences because you dont need any… but I think that works only if you assume that people dont take others at face value. Which we all unfortunately do.
Not really sure what I’m advising here, or what the middleground exactly is here, but hopefully you can see where I’m coming from
Both directions of it are defense mechanisms. And ime it’s better to go the jokingly overconfident route than the self depreciation route, though I find a bit of both to be fun. That said here his self depreciation serves his argument.
Agreed on all fronts