What are some of Russia’s historical analogues or antecedants who were eased into mitigation?

Its all about the easing process of defanging them. Like gently but firmly removing the reins of power and helping the pesky ones go quietly into their sad night

  • Paragone@lemmy.ca
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    I think you’re ignoring the stage of the world, right now: The Great Filter’s where we’re at, now.

    Imagine a giant “cell”, a world with too-many humans to be able to support them all, because humans got adult technology, multiplying humankind’s effect 10,000-fold, but … humans are still part-toddler & part-pubescent tween…

    Except now, the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Current ( AMOC ) is shutting-down, Greenland’s melting into the North Atlantic ( which will wreck the North Atlantic’s ports, later this century ), the actual CO2 & methane levels in this world’s atmosphere nail the planet’s equilibrium-temperature to between +8C & +9C, most of { California, Texas, Sahara, Saudi-Arabia, India, Outback of Australia } become uninhabitABLE by about +4C, & the political-tantrum, the ideological-tantrum the “religious”-tantrum, etc, all are stacking-up on top of the panic-migrations that are going to be forced shortly…

    & then ask the Russia question…


    What’s actually happening, is that humankind is going-through

    • mitosis, with ideologues/prejudice-supremacists/“religion”-supremacists warring to force-extinguish considered-reasoning, & the considered-reasoning people accustomed to coddling, whereas not it’s do-or-die survival for humankind
    • The Great Filter, aka species-puberty, where some subset of humankind grows-up XOR all of humankind is “naturally selected against” this century, leaving our world extinguished of our kind
    • ideological-nationalism is fighting to force-extinguish all other modes, so it can then get to “rule” the world, while the world dies…

    etc…

    Pick a view, in other words…

    I don’t believe that country-nationalism CAN survive The Great Filter: I believe that it has to be Blue Marble Earth “nation” or it’s going to be factional-supremacists exterminating humankind for their own “authority” and “supremacy” and “importance” until humankind’s completely nonviable, & functionally finished…

    The Kahneman1-mind, imprint->reaction mind, lower-forebrain, ideology/prejudice/“religion” which “doesn’t need to consider: it INHERENTLY just knows” …

    is fighting to force-extinguish Kahneman2-mind, considered-reasoning mind, upper-forebrain, studying-and-accepting-evidence mode, because Universe is sooo much more complexer than we default to ignorantly assume…

    ( Daniel Kahneman’s “Thinking Fast and Slow” is part of the root of this understanding: it’s literally a species-wide fighting-off of growing-up, to “return to the animals-&-tribes-times”, that the “biblical” people want to enforce, but it’s ALL ideologies wanting to enforce, the non-thinking REACTING nature of it )


    Now ask:

    IS Russia, in the crunch-time of this world, going to suddenly replace ideology with critical-thinking-education & considered-reasoning??

    No?

    THEN Russia is warring for the obliteration of considered-reasoning.

    Do the same question for EVERY nation in this world, & add-up the results.

    You will find that the white-blue-white Russians are committed to considered-reasoning, but the white-blue-red Russians are not…

    Same with all countries: there are some who want their animal-reaction obliterating all competitors from the face of this Universe, there are others who understand that the Copernican revolution ( no, neither Sun nor G-D revolves around “the world of Man”. ) never went far-enough, & that we have to accept that in the Great Scheme of Things™, we are … sentient dust!

    & if we accept that we are much more likely to be developmentally-backward citizens of this Universe, objectively, & that is too-much of an ego-hit for the animal-reaction ideologues…

    Ask about the Confederates!

    Ask about the CCP!

    Ask about the Rupert Murdoch populist-dictatorship people! ( the elegant & brilliant remapping of Leninism from left to right, from proletariat-dictatorship to populist-dictatorship. Both Leninism & Murdochism are evil, in my eyes, but the efficiency with-which they eradicate uprightness from civilizations: they’re like efficient cancer!

    I want considered-reasoning, & Issue-Diagrams, & responsibility-archy, & accountability, they want authority-without-accountability-or-responsibility, so they’re on the opposite side, but … you simply have to admire efficiency when it’s that much greater than one’s own side’s work, even while working to counter it…

    maybe people who aren’t systems-creatures won’t understand that, but systems-people … effectiveness can itself be beautiful )


    So, what I see is that focusing in Russia is actually like moving tables on the sinking of the Titanic: solving the wrong problem.

    The Global Fascist Alliance, with Putin, Trump+Musk, Millei, Farage, Le Pen, Orban, etc… they’ve got real strength in this world, & they’re going to GUT civil-rights from our planet, permanently, if they can.

    The left is … making-believing that it isn’t a survival-situation, that “the next election we can just take it back” … but anybody who sees just how stunningly fast the shredding-of-the-US-civil-society is progressing…

    https://www.project2025.observer/

    See on there that they’re assuming there’s going to be an election to replace Trump?

    Idiocy: there isn’t.

    That’s the kind of making-believing I’m talking about: comforting making-believing while being herded into the abbatoir.


    Russia & the US are solid allies, & NATO is their enemy, now.

    Period.

    This was predicted by some, for the last few years.

    The quicker that the rest-of-NATO realizes this, the greater the percentage of their people will survive.

    Within 3y, the US will be waging total war on Canada, because only through possessing both Canada & Greenland can the US corner Europe between Russia & the entirely-continental US of A.

    Annihilating the hated-by-both-Putin-and-Trump woke EU means that they then get to be the only “kings” left in the West.

    Trump’s annexing of Greenland isn’t for ice-rights, or mineral-rights, it is for military force-projection against Europe.

    The EU’s trojanned, with Orban, so they’re hamstrung.

    England gutted itself with Brexit.

    The multi-dimensional-assault is elegant…

    https://www.desmog.com/2025/03/14/heritage-foundation-project-2025-allies-mcc-ordo-iuris-discuss-dismantling-the-eu-european-union/

    for the soft-force, butcher Europe through politics, but … the physical-butchering of the EU is obliged, apparently, in Putin & Trump’s hearts…


    Arm to the teeth, & fight to the death.

    That is the only real way left.

    1st Ukraine, then … Canada & Europe, ie TrueNATO.

    IF we remain standing when the US’s war-against-itself implodes it, THEN we’ll be standing to be having the CCP throwing all their Asian Empire ( the US should be able to be rampaging our Western world until … sometime in 2031 or so? & with the West all “occupied” by that, China can simply smash all “independence” from Asia, without our being able to do ANYthing about it. ) against us, when the US fails…

    So, it’ll simply be like those idiotic “opponents” in computer-games, who wait at the side, until you’ve dealt-with the current one, then the next one piles-on…

    IF CCP waits until the Russia+US alliance collapses, THEN … it gets to wallop an already-exhausted TrueNATO, right?

    Even better, it gets to finance Russia’s rampaging of Europe, while pretending it isn’t “involved”, the whole time that Russia+US are warring against TrueNATO, & then once that bit’s done, it can overtly own Russia, its now-economic-vassal-state…


    Sorry this isn’t lining-up with “what to do about Russia” as it was intended.

    but surviving this century requires we get guts, drive, & upright instinct, pronto.

    We need to become more like Ukraine has been, but not the naive-fool that Zelenskiy is being, in assuming that the US is somehow his, & not Putin’s, ally, now.

    ( I pray he gets his head out of the sand, immediately )

    This is a literal deathmatch, a war-of-attrition between enemy-intents who … most of them … simply don’t care if nobody survives on this world, so long as nobody of the others survives.

    Wrong-framing means a greater percentage of humankind are extinguished, this-century, is all.

    It saves zero lives, it offers less effective “comfort” than alcohol: Hopium COST the Dems in the US their country.

    We need to not let it drug us, too.

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