Every country commissions these stratagram documents for different scenarios. It’s not surprising that Israeli government does the same. These documents are usually held quite secret, because they’re inflammatory, they go through many different scenarios, many of which are politically unpalatable.
What’s really interesting, is that this document was released now. Almost like it’s socializing the concept, testing the waters before the plan is committed with its allies.
And of that document option c appears to be being implemented right now in front of us.
Is the document genuine? Probably, I’ve seen sources from Canada Israel and other parties saying the document has been acknowledged by their sources.
Is the document itself a cause for concern? No.
Are the actions we’re seeing in real time, and the timing of the release of the document concerning? Very much so.
Everything hinges on Egypt’s cooperation. And I don’t know how Israel is going to compel that.
Every country commissions these stratagram documents for different scenarios.
But this document is an official israeli government document discussing something that is not just ’ politically unpalatable’. It is describing and discussing a literal warcrime: https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v2/rule129
So I don’t want us to get stuck down in the semantic weeds, but I promise you every government has strategic documents going through different scenarios, including the usefulness of war crimes to achieve goals.
but I promise you every government has strategic documents going through different scenarios, including the usefulness of war crimes to achieve goals.
I disagree here. I cannot prove it, but I can give you my honest informed opinion: I know that there are governments that do not stoop to that level. Sometimes, a country gets a government that does this, but then it gets another government that is more civilized and moral and scraps all this.
There are governments and people leading these governments that are actually committed to not do these things.
Maybe we’re watching a constructed drama unfold in real time?
Bombings for a couple weeks, escalate the humanitarian situation, have Egypt come in saying oh we’ll take care of the refugees. But make them look reluctant about it. Even though they’re getting some compensation on the other side. Then open the border while continuing the bombing. To get as many civilians to run out of the territory as quickly as possible.
Bombings for a couple weeks, escalate the humanitarian situation, have Egypt come in saying oh we’ll take care of the refugees. But make them look reluctant about it. Even though they’re getting some compensation on the other side. Then open the border while continuing the bombing. To get as many civilians to run out of the territory as quickly as possible.
Israel issued a stern warning to Egypt and made it clear that it would not permit humanitarian aid from Egypt to enter Gaza. Israel needs to create a humanitarian crisis in Gaza, compelling tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands to seek refuge in Egypt or the Gulf.
Egypt is reluctant because Palestinians refugees have caused trouble before in their country, the economy isn’t doing well and they have high unemployment at the moment—that’s three good reasons to be reluctant that make sense.
Ya. The CIA has had everything from assassinations to drugs in the water for large populations. They even did those things as well. Things can get dark when you focus on protection of your said country and assume the worse of your enemy imagined and real.
Every country commissions these stratagram documents for different scenarios. It’s not surprising that Israeli government does the same. These documents are usually held quite secret, because they’re inflammatory, they go through many different scenarios, many of which are politically unpalatable.
What’s really interesting, is that this document was released now. Almost like it’s socializing the concept, testing the waters before the plan is committed with its allies.
And of that document option c appears to be being implemented right now in front of us.
Is the document genuine? Probably, I’ve seen sources from Canada Israel and other parties saying the document has been acknowledged by their sources.
Is the document itself a cause for concern? No.
Are the actions we’re seeing in real time, and the timing of the release of the document concerning? Very much so.
Everything hinges on Egypt’s cooperation. And I don’t know how Israel is going to compel that.
I disagree, heavily.
But this document is an official israeli government document discussing something that is not just ’ politically unpalatable’. It is describing and discussing a literal warcrime: https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v2/rule129
So
Is a solid fuckin yes. That, in itself, is already the story. The israeli government internally creates scenarios to commit warcrimes. But that israeli government officials openly advocate for warcrimes or genocidal actions is even worse, because it means they really want to do that, and only strong outside pressure from their western allies might prevent this.
Don’t pretend like this is “just theoretical”. Because this just happend:
I agree with your point.
So I don’t want us to get stuck down in the semantic weeds, but I promise you every government has strategic documents going through different scenarios, including the usefulness of war crimes to achieve goals.
I.e. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_color-coded_war_plans
I disagree here. I cannot prove it, but I can give you my honest informed opinion: I know that there are governments that do not stoop to that level. Sometimes, a country gets a government that does this, but then it gets another government that is more civilized and moral and scraps all this.
There are governments and people leading these governments that are actually committed to not do these things.
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Based on ‘I’m a military government official of my country’.
Maybe we’re watching a constructed drama unfold in real time?
Bombings for a couple weeks, escalate the humanitarian situation, have Egypt come in saying oh we’ll take care of the refugees. But make them look reluctant about it. Even though they’re getting some compensation on the other side. Then open the border while continuing the bombing. To get as many civilians to run out of the territory as quickly as possible.
Could be
That’s literally what former IDF general Giora Eiland is calling for in his op-ed: https://www.ynetnews.com/article/sju3uabba
It’s still a warcrime, though: https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v2/rule129
And the conditions he wants to create are enough that one might consider them genocidal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_Convention
Egypt is reluctant because Palestinians refugees have caused trouble before in their country, the economy isn’t doing well and they have high unemployment at the moment—that’s three good reasons to be reluctant that make sense.
Ya. The CIA has had everything from assassinations to drugs in the water for large populations. They even did those things as well. Things can get dark when you focus on protection of your said country and assume the worse of your enemy imagined and real.
Some of the documents can be kind of interesting and fun: I’m sure Denmark has a plan to repel a Canadian invasion of Greenland.
And I’m sure Canada has a plan on invading Greenland, if it should become necessary… Critical ice purposes