Israel’s military has claimed it has encircled Gaza City and divided the besieged coastal strip into two, as Gaza came under its third total communications outage since the start of the war.

“Today, there is north Gaza and south Gaza,” Israeli army spokesman Daniel Hagari told reporters on Sunday, calling it a “significant stage” in Israel’s war against Hamas.

Israeli media reported that troops are expected to enter Gaza City within 48 hours. Strong explosions were seen in northern Gaza after nightfall.

But the “collapse in connectivity” across Gaza reported by internet access advocacy group NetBlocks.org and confirmed by the Palestinian telecom company Paltel made it even more complicated to convey details of the new stage of the military offensive.

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    Very roughly, of the 778,000 residents of Gaza about 10,000 have died and almost half have been forced to leave their homes. Even if the statement were true, it would not be worth it.

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      That’s the population of urban areas only. The population of Gaza Strip is a little over 2 million. Obviously that doesn’t make the casualties any better, but I always like to work with accurate facts.

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      It’s almost like the government calling them subhuman beasts isn’t concerned about genociding civilians over a land grab.

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      the 778,000 residents of Gaza about 10,000 have died

      (According to Hamas)

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        They released a named list back when it was 7000. Like with full names and national IDs. They’re telling the truth on this one.

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              If I was some terrorist dickhead working for Hamas I’d just collate every death which happened from any cause within Gaza and report them as conflict related. Killed by Hamas, killed by Israel, slipped and fell, dead of cancer? Whatever. Just collect all of them.

              I don’t know how they’re fudging the numbers, but it would beggar belief that they aren’t. They control the health ministry, they’ve got all the tools they need to inflate the total as much as they want to.

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                  Bro the US government is far more credible than Hamas, and anyone who has a legitimate grasp on reality would agree

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                Israel itself has said they dropped something like 6000 bombs in the first week. Imagine that number, and then realize Gaza is one of the most populated areas in the world (like pretty much a city all the way through), how would that number of deaths be anything but realistic? Just think about what would happen if they dropped 6000 bombs in Manhatten, how many deaths do you think there would be? If anything, 9000 sounds of the low side.

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                If I was some terrorist dickhead working for Hamas I’d just collate every death which happened from any cause within Gaza and report them as conflict related.

                Then we’d have seen bigger numbers. Gaza has 2.2 million people, and they’re currently starving and drinking brackish water.

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                About 150,000 people die every day world wide out of 8.1 billion. If you assume the same ratio for gaza’s 2 million then that would result is approximately 37 deaths per day.

                Take into account approximately 30 days of conflict at 37 natural deaths per day that would be around 1100 deaths.

                So one can assume that even if they blamed every death of those 10,000 on Israel, at least 8900 probably were.

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        With no water and electricity for a couple days, that seem like a low number to me.

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        I really hope you’re just too stupid to realize this as genocide denial instead of malicious.

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            • Those numbers are what has been used by most countries before this genocide started, including Israel and the US (and still do)
            • Something like 40% of buildings have been destroyed in Gaza since last week (it’s certainly more now)
            • Hamas is the governing body, everything is technically under Hamas. That’s like me saying “I don’t trust the CDC or HHS because I don’t trust an imperialist terrorist United States”.
            • It’s not hard to find all kinds of footage of blown up children and buildings, use your fucking eyes if the other bits of logic are too difficult for you.
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              What genocide?

              Something like 40% of buildings have been destroyed in Gaza since last week

              Wars are terrible. I think this is why Israel recommended an evacuation.

              Hamas is the governing body, everything is technically under Hamas.

              Exactly the problem.

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                Ah, I figured it out.

                Malicious, stupid, and zero empathy reserved exclusively for Israelis. Keep Yourself Safe.

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        What death numbers are you using Instead?