By Alice Cuddy BBC News, Jerusalem


The call to Mahmoud Shaheen came at dawn.

It was Thursday 19 October at about 06:30, and Israel had been bombing Gaza for 12 days straight.

He’d been in his third-floor, three-bedroom flat in al-Zahra, a middle-class area in the north of the Gaza Strip. Until now, it had been largely untouched by air strikes.

He’d heard a rising clamour outside. People were screaming. “You need to escape,” somebody in the street shouted, “because they will bomb the towers”.

  • Shardikprime@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Hamas sets up military operations in a civilian building by force - the civilians have no say in this and get killed if they protest

    Hamas then uses that building to launch rockets, store ammunition, communication stations How does Israel proceed to neutralize those sites? what they do is:

    “Roof knocking”: Hitting the building’s roof with a small explosive to announce that it will fall in 15 minutes

    (see video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teevWpXlRZY example)

    Automatic SMS and phone calls impacted areas warning and urging to evacuate

    Precision strikes that make the building fall vertically with minimal damage to the areas

    As a result, civilians (and potentially military personnel) are given a chance to evacuate while ammunition stashes, rocket launching stations etc stay in the building and are destroyed.

    Weirdly enough, since the operation began, Hamas has repeatedly instructed Palestinians to ignore these warnings.

    To be honest, I’m shocked those protocols are still used after Hamas’s attack. I would absolutely not be surprised of these measures stopped.

    Incredibly, people don’t care that during a war, Israel is bending over backwards to minimize human suffering while fighting a decades long war against people who are deliberately hell-bent on genocide of the Jews of the world.

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      Over the course of 20 years, the US and its coalition allies in Afganistan killed approximately 50,000 civilians and there we calls for war crimes investigations. In the course of one month Israel has killed over 10,000 civilians.

      I did two tours in Afghanistan and can tell you now, they are not bending over backwards to minimize it. They are using this as an excuse to indemnify themselves from war crimes prosecution.

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        “Bending over backwards” is a bit excessive… but maybe “slightly reclining in their chairs”?

        At least they’re doing “something”, instead of bombing out of the blue… and if it works to indemnify themselves from war crimes prosecution… yay, international law at work, right?

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          The cynic would say they’re lying, but did enough warning to make the PR videos

          The Optimist would say they’re telling the truth, and always warning

          The middle road would be they warn when it’s convenient, when the cell phones are working, but it’s not a hard requirement

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      How are they bending over backwards when bombing cities what mental gymnastics is going on in your head

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      I’m torn. I want to believe they’re giving warnings. But if they’re giving warnings, that means the 10,000 dead people wanted to die.

      So either 10,000 people ignored the warnings, or some portion of them were not warned. I know where the balance of probabilities point