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  • If I recall correctly, Yahoo was originally a hand curated site list sorted topically. Seems like something similar could be a “search” solution for the slow web, potentially wiki style with nomination of an entry for inclusion in a topic and a certain number of votes from validated users/editors to add it to the directory. Could even be done via Lemmy/Mbin as the front end on an instance where only local members votes are counted towards the total and you have to apply to join with some kind of vetting process.

    Reminds me a bit of Citizendium







  • Their prototype unit is 400 watts, based on their deck their target is residential use.

    While “a lot” would fit in a the footprint of a large turbine, 42,500 would not, which is how many would be needed to be equivalent to the large turbines the article is talking about, and I’d bet that many Harmony Turbines would cost more as well.

    Scale efficiency for grid scale wind projects is the bottom line, and bot accessing steadier and stronger high altitude winds with taller turbines and using larger diameter blades gain efficiency beyond what any fleet of smaller turbines can match.

    Not to say that larger scale vertical axis turbines are completely out of the picture, but they suffer from irregular bearing loading which wears out the drive train much faster among other issues. As of now large scale horizontal axis bladed turbines are far ahead in term of both cost and space efficiency. It would take something very groundbreaking to change that.

    No need to die on this hill, it’s just different technologies for different applications, there is a place for both.



  • To not dismiss your perspective out of hand, in order to use smaller vertical-type mills and still tap higher altitude winds on masts would require support structures that can keep many more turbines aloft to supply the same electricity, and the electrical infrastructure to merge all the turbine electrical output and balance the loads to give a stable denoised power output to the grid.

    The result is a much lower weight to power density in the smaller turbines, meaning much more expensive structural supports, and much more expensive power routing and station infrastructure. This makes such projects non-viable as they wouldnt be able to charge enough for the electricity to pay off the infrastructure over the lifetime of the turbines.

    Smaller turbines like the one you posted DO have a great place in the power mix, for example for potential installation at the top of skyscrapers where the support infrastructure is already paid for by other uses (though the loads have to be accommodated by the building design, which still adds cost), or in low-altitude areas where steady winds exist and there is specific moderate electrical demand, such as in valley ports on islands or more remote coastal towns. In those cases larger mills would overproduce electricity demand, so smaller turbines at lower altitude are a good fit.


  • The forces on a blade of this size are truly staggering, when you think about how long a lever they are attached to only one side, its clear that the issue is not only strength at the seam of a proposed joint but also the impact any additional weight will have on the junction of the blade with the rotor. They are pushing the limits of what high pressure molded composites can handle at these scales, but still some companies have developed multi-piece turbine blades.

    Generally the biggest downsides to multi-component blade technologies are that they cost substantially more, and they have lower operating lifespan, a bad double whammy for the profitability of a windmill.

    Basically the cargo plain developers are banking on the cost per flight of each turbine blade being less than the cost of building, installing, maintaining, and replacing multi-part blades over the lifetime of the windmill, and as of now this economics pencils out. Who knows though, tech changes fast, what I wonder is whether portable blade foundries might not be possible to build the blades on-site for large windmill projects.

    If you want to get into the nitty gritty I found this presentation very helpful: https://windmillstech.com/wind-turbine-design/