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  • Jaja I understand the need for time, we will see how things develop.

    Just as an aside note, the idea of “at least my racist uncle won’t join” is lowkey funny to me. It shouldn’t matter if he joins, we have tools for banning and most people should already shun that behavior. After all, it’s not like racism is safeguarded against because we keep normies out, at least two huge instances on the fediverse currently (or forks from it) are alt right cesspools. And I have seen a few andrew tate fans and also some racist pricks both over at madtodon and here, it’s not like only kind people join this kind of places, but as long as we moderate properly it shouldn’t be much of a problem.


  • Not really, you probably can already see the posts on your frontpage feed (which is exclusive for your subscribed communities) and it also already should appear on your subscribed list.

    And as the other user said, it is a bug that it appears as pending. At least on desktop when it days that I reload the page and press the subscribe button twice and it fixes, alternatively on the app “connect for lemmy” I have never seen the issue. But regardless it’s not really a problem


  • Elkaki123@vlemmy.nettoFediverse@lemmy.worldI don't understand.
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    Op, try presding this teo communities and subscribe just to check it’s working properly

    !manga@lemmy.ml

    !games@sh.itjust.works

    After you verify they are working feel free to unsubscribe of course.

    Edit: after reading it again I’m a bit confused to what your problem is, so here is a quick run down of jow things should work.

    From your own account, use the search bar to search for a community in another instance, there try to see button for about community (it might be different on each app) and lastly press subscribe. From yhere, all your subscriptions should appear the same regardless of where they come from.



  • I’m a bit sad when it comes to smaller communities that have been struggling with content, problem is that for some of those hobbies it took a lot of time to reach a user base in reddit where there were discussions and interesting posts every day, here while I see a lot of committed users trying their bests some communities are simply unable to reach that level yet.

    I am hopeful for the future, but in my case it’s about people just learning how to use it which is something I kind of saw in Mastodon this past year. The way for content to remain high quality is through moderation and setting the example, not simply by being difficult for casual users since in my eyes they are needed in this kind of forums.


  • While there is less reddit content I do feel this past week it just got replaced with meta/threats, and personally it has been kind of even more tiring than reddit content as it has tended to feel like an echo chamber where everyone read the same post and spread a lot of negativity about how Lemmy won’t survive Meta if we don’t block instances that don’t block threats and the like and also the idea going around that if someone wants to federate he is either ignorant or stupid, and talking about that, the elitism on this threats treating everyone on insta and threats as stupid people and saying they don’t sant any of those people here because it dumbs down the content… This last week has been really toxic on the larger communities.

    Sorry for that little rant, I had to get that out of my system jeje.





  • Just so I understand, blocking an instance:

    Does:

    • block people from that instance from interactinh with yours
    • blocks people from your own indtance being able to search theirs
    • blocks communities from that instance to appear on /all

    It doesn’t:

    • Block comments if done on non blockef instance
    • Block posts if done on non blocked instance

    Is that right? I was under the impression that defederating would block them completely, as that is how it worked over at mastodon, if it doesn’t that seems like a serious oversight.


  • When you say that there is no technical way, you sre referring to users not being able to block instances right?

    If it’s that I don’t think it is that difficult to implement, Mastodon already allows for that. And also the app “connect for lemmy” in its last update has given the option to block instances user level, I don’t really know yet if it blocks all users from that indtance from appearing or only communities as I haven’t tested it yet.

    Regardless to say, if we can get the appropriate tools this definitely could be a decision for users to take, if we make it so that they can completely block any and all content coming from a big instance.



  • Agree, by design the fediverse should be able to resist whatever the supposed harm is from META, I don’t really agree with privacy concerns since everything on the fediverse is public, especially on kbin and lemmy, almost everything is already available to whomever eants it, there is no need to set up this hugr machination since they can already accomplish it so much easier.



  • (TLDR: if you only read one thing make it so its the last paragraph, it is the main argument anyways the first part was more of the rationale behind it)

    I disagree with your notion. Although I feel there are two meanings for gatekeeping clashing. First there is gatekeeping in a traditional sense, which is filtering. As in you need to meet certain requirements, be it that your post sticks to the rules, moderation would technically be gatekeeping here as it rejects the content made by the people who dont adhere to what the community has determined. In this sense it is good

    Then there is the “urban” meaning of the world (not sure if that is the word in english for popular use of words) where here in the internet gatekeeping is more referred to keeping something “pure” by excluding people out, or for keeping a sense of elitism. I feel almost all fandoms went through this phase during the early 2010s late 2000s, just as an example if you ever said you liked anime but had only watched shōnen you would have been mocked by every single person on the forum. Gaming communities have also been incredibly toxic in this regards, need I remind you of the entire GamerGate era…

    Sure this two meanings can conflate, but by dividing I can explain why I am opposed to the second attitude while not minding the first. The gatekeeping by the communities, which is necessary as you say to keep good communities is certainly good. Of course we need moderation and rules to make communities work, even really heavy moderation and exclusions can be good as long as they are rational and serve a particular purpose like what r/askhistorias did by removing 99% of comments.

    But the attitude of “things are better now because you have to be really smart to be here” is a stupid elitist notion, change it a bit and its the same argument that has been used to gatekeep hobbies so strongly instead of fostering someone’s interest in a thing into something better. Here what we need is not to “keep those people out” but instead we need to embrace them and push them to make better content. Simple as, we designate the rules and we create the content that becomes the standard. Communities are far better shaped by setting a standard of appropriate conduct that people who are joining replicate instead of outright denying some people because they are “normies” that will ruin things for us.



  • I’m with you on this one, in a vacuum I don’t really have a problem with the term “normie” but here it is completely being used as gatekeeping.

    This whole meta controversy has really caused some brain rot, a lot of people talk about this place as if it’s better because it “gatekeeps”. They say they enjoy this place because it is niche and doesn’t have the “below room temperature IQ posters” (actual quote I saw)

    I don’t like this attitude, I really don’t like it. It is way to common on the internet, especially for hobby communities to have this attitude.



  • But a counter is that much of that information is already public and can be scraped, they aren’t gaining much on outside meta users that they aren’t already able to do.

    Best advice at the end of the day is that for social media, unless advertised on privacy, never post anything you dont want to be public. And for cases like lemmy, expect even metadata to be available for anyone interested.

    I understand the wish to not interact with meta, even if its for privacy concerns.

    But Im a firm believer that it is the user first who needs to make that decision, not the instance. But as I said, Lemmy being the only one of the big fedi platforms right now that doesnt have a feature for instance/domain blocking user level kinds of screws this up.


  • Good points. I’m sure there are other potential solutions to reduce the fear of EEE taking place here. I don’t really think EEE would work, since instances are supposed to be small and operate horizontally, it is kind of impossible to kill Lemmy as long as we understand that we need to spread out a little bit (otherwise huge instances being defederated hugely impacts the user experience)

    One thing though, Mastodon does allow for blocking domains. I just tried it over Mastodon.online and also through the fedilabs app, both are working. Kbin also has that feature, wish they implemented it to Lemmy so that we can empower users to customize their experience without needing to self host.