Sir, this is Lemmy.

There must be a desire on both sides to get to the truth. If one of the sides already believes he knows what is truth, then its pointless. It becomes a situation where that person’s objective is not to get to the bottom of things, but to convince you he/she is right. Unconsciously I do this sometimes with some of my beliefs, and its hard not to do it. It requires some level of maturity, not getting attached to beliefs, and rather adhere to an uncertainty principle.

Another situation is acting in bad faith. Someone who gives zero shits about truth and its only desire is to advance his position/power.

The 1st example it might still be possible to bring the other around by hard facts, sometimes. The 2nd its hopeless because there is no desire for truth.

Well it really isn’t addictive as opiates for example are. You wont become chemically dependant to it. The kind of addiction it causes is the same one that social media, TV, gaming, etc might cause. It becomes an habit and you get used to that. I know this is a simplification but this is how I see it.

I don’t get it. Help!

Yeah shouldn’t it have been the other way? AI for robots to take out the trash and cook and clean, and we’d be free for art and writing?

Was life at any point in our past free?

I don’t think so.

And if you go back to caveman times before money, we still paid with blood.

If anything life is moving into a situation where it might actually be free. But that does not mean freedom.

We were actually more free in caveman times.

Its a paradox. The more comfortable we get, the more safe we get, and the less we have to pay for this, in the end we will pay with less freedom.

Nothing will work when the other side is acting in bad faith. They will just lie, use half truths, manipulate information and all kinds of tricks to get to where they want.

Non Violent Communication (NVC) might be effective in some of those situations. Basically reflecting back the needs behind the chosen words or way they are said.

Yeah you’re right. I’m in IT. Some stuff sometimes is better discussed via short call. But in government positions I can see you need to have it all on record sure.

Its not that simple. Its ok to apologize sometimes. But not so apologize every fucking time like I do for every minor slide. Also I can see the usefulness to just make the shot call instead of staying 1h writing that message/email. Others are ok too.

All hail the Fediverse.

Yep. Extra protein too

Yup

Dude you’ve been shitting on people all over this thread. What’s your problem?

Its like that story of the frog helping the scorpion cross the river.

What is there to discuss?

in general I find this to be true with most fruits, the uglier the better. Those pretty shiny apples are shit.

Its a mix: contrarians, Meta shills and NPCs.

This companies are all about profit and control and monopolies and give zero shits about you, quality content or anything else. Fuck them

Putting my tinfoil hat: Would Meta be capable of having people in the Fediverse posting positively about Meta joining the Fediverse? Because anyone with 2 braincells and that has arrived here so far and gone through the trouble of understanding ± what this is about, set up an account etc, would understand by now the way the world works and why its such a bad idea to have Meta have a foot in the door here.