Supporting genocide seems like a pretty good redline to focus on though. When both candidates promise to maintain or increase the genocide, why does this sham of a democracy deserve to be supported? This electoral system and US imperialism doesn’t have to be endless, partaking in the process only serves to legitimize the horrors commited daily.

Obama sucks, Biden sucks, all establishment politicians including Trump don’t give a fuck about you. He calls his supporters idiots, he has said he doesn’t believe what he says to people but just says the things that his base wants to hear, like a TV entertainer, because that is his primary skill. He believes in nothing, and Kamala isn’t really better.

It’s possible to support people and actions that actually do help us all, there are many ways to help the country besides supporting sham politicians, who will do nothing to help us, will line the pockets of the wealthy and send more young people into endless wars.

Why do you think billionaires and CEOs love Trump? Because they know he will increase their profits, and he already has. This money comes from the lower class. The rich support the Dems too because they aren’t much better if at all when it comes to corporate greed and theft of the people.

We’re going to eat your children obviously

Last time Lebanon and Israel were at war Israel lost. Hezbollah is better armed and trained now, and Israel is more isolated than ever. Israel is bombing civilian areas now, using terrorism because they cannot effectively stop Hezbollah rockets from hitting targets in ‘Israel’. People of Lebanon support Hezbollah and actions against Israel, they aren’t being held hostage.

It could have been an opportunity like they had renovations in the building, an agent disguised as a worker planted it inside the wall or something. Or like a plot on a Sopranos episode, feds snuck into Tony’s house and swapped a lamp with an exact replica with a listening device inside. Definite security failure for a secure compound though.

Netenyahu himself defended the actions of the imprisoned soldiers, saying anything can be done to detainees without restrictions because they are “terrorists”.

Didn’t you know, it’s actually the people critical of a corrupted system that are to blame for said system’s utter failures

Why not blame the Democrat Party? They have refused to entertain the idea that no one really wanted Biden to run again until now, with hardly anytime to get people on board with anyone else. They have done barely fuck-all to get people interested in voting for them no matter who the candidate was as well.

Who is saying 30 minutes? I’ve only seen reports saying two or three minutes, I wouldn’t doubt that though.

EDIT: new info has come out, it’s pretty absurd

Not to mention numerous Black Panthers, civil rights leaders, many others killed. The state knows that assassination can work.

People often talk about going back in time to kill baby Hitler. By all measures Trump would like to be a new Hitler and his most fervent supporters see him as that. Is it surprising people would support such an action to stop him?

And further alienate any actual people that might support them. They have to condemn political violence because it was an attack on their class, and their class solidarity overrides any political rivalry. But even my very liberal friend said “dang, it’s too bad they missed.” Idk what my Christian grandma feels about the shooting but when Trump got covid she did say he deserved it.

Wasn’t there a court ruling that forcing someone to unlock their phone was unconstitutional? The fourth amendment seems to indicate a warrent at least is required to search someone’s papers, in the modern era that should apply to phones, obviously the constitution is meaningless if they want to do whatever but still.

Edit: in Riley v. California (2014) the Supreme Court unanimously decided that warrentless search of a cellphone during an arrest was unconstitutional.

I’d allow it, as long as they let Americans serving with anti-Zionist resistance groups get the benefits too.

This is an A-Lister commie board, we have Ryan Gosling too!

Edit: whoops I thought this was a hexbear post but my point stands, less commie though

They are just pointing out that these phrases are used for that, which is why they are recognized as “thought-terminating cliches”, it doesn’t mean they are always used in such a way. You can be aware of manipulative language without being an anarchist or commie.

Well yes I think all of us should be the better person, obviously easier said than done! I’m not a fan of ridicule or bullying of course (except against actual nazis maybe) and I feel bad if you or anyone has been hurt by harassment. I am mostly just trying to say this sort of infighting is all just taken too seriously, and arguing about ‘tankies’, which can mean any number of things to different people, doesn’t seem helpful to anyone in my view.

For what it’s worth, like another comment said I do really appreciate the work you and others have done to make this instance possible! I don’t have any resentment for anyone in this situation and I hope hexers and us here can all come together better in the future, we have more alike than in difference.

Have you read the comments? Plenty of people think this is silly evidently, it’s not brigading when a lot of dbz users are hexbear users also

Upvoted comment here:

I don’t care for the drama on Hexbear. And I don’t care for it here either. This post is drama baiting.

That’s a reasonable sentiment to me

I wasn’t saying you were immature, I said the whole situation was. The impetus for the whole thing, deleting of the post, also seemed to make no sense to me at all. But to elevate the situation after that was what I meant was immature really. And from there it just seemed like a schoolyard fight or something, all of it just being a waste of time distracting and taking energy away from everyone involved.

I don’t know all the details of the drama but I’m sorry you haven’t had better interactions with hexbear. Some users can be problematic like any place, but I have been inspired by the effort, genuine good faith debate and historical analysis that is common in hexbear discussions. I’m anarchist, I first came to the fediverse through this instance and haven’t had any issue with hexbear, and personally would defed from .world before hexbear lol.

Can you clarify how hexbear facilities harassment? I’m not saying you’re wrong but I just don’t know what you mean. They have the_dunk_tank which you could argue does but they changed the rules to discourage dunking on anyone that isn’t a prominent voice, if there is harassment from users I haven’t seen the mods do anything to encourage it.