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Woah 8 (probably 5 ) guaranteed years of security updates they beat google to it They didnt mention any security hardware updates like a secure element so probably no grapheneos support still though. Be a good travel phone though but dont expect security
Edit: Seems that their security updates will be limited
Update: It’s only 5 years of security updates (2028) see thread referenced below.
They would have to satisfy the Graphene guys about ongoing security updates, they had a github issue listing the reasons they couldn’t work with fairphone, but they deleted the issue, so maybe they are working on it.
We can hope but I wouldn’t bet on it. I just hate that we need to be tied to one company thats known to make drastic changes so having another manufactor would be amazing
Damn thats disappointing so much goddamn potential too. What do you think their solution is going to be when support inevitably ends and they still have to fulfill their promise?
They have already shown us with their previous fair phones. They cant fix the baseband security, so any updates that come along are ASOP only, any security updates are ASOP and not baseband.
It’s not great if your security conscious.
Honestly it would be fine if they said baseband security until 2029, and software updates until 2033. Long enough for most people to use, and resell to people don’t care about baseband updates.
But they don’t say that… They say they are still getting security updates. Omitting they are not updating the baseband. Its a lie by omission. Thats not a good look for our “fair phone” friends.
I don’t see where you’ve found that is was released in 2021. All I could find was a announcement in 2022, and a release date marked as “Q2 2023” on a third party websites.
That would align with the announced 5 years of support from Qualcomm and an upstream end of support set to 2028.
Copyright may have been opposed on this document early during development. But anyway, in both case end of support is 2028, which is better than the usual 2-3 years of support for mainline chips.
This is great, and I hope they exceed it. 8 years is still less than what Apple’s oldest phones are getting. The 2013 iPhone 5s is still receiving security updates this year in 2023.
Woah
8(probably 5 ) guaranteed years of security updatesthey beat google to itThey didnt mention any security hardware updates like a secure element so probably no grapheneos support still though. Be a good travel phone though but dont expect securityEdit: Seems that their security updates will be limited
Update: It’s only 5 years of security updates (2028) see thread referenced below.
They would have to satisfy the Graphene guys about ongoing security updates, they had a github issue listing the reasons they couldn’t work with fairphone, but they deleted the issue, so maybe they are working on it.
We can hope but I wouldn’t bet on it. I just hate that we need to be tied to one company thats known to make drastic changes so having another manufactor would be amazing
https://slrpnk.net/comment/2189581
See my comment in the other technology community about the live stream. There is a problem with their support window.
Damn thats disappointing so much goddamn potential too. What do you think their solution is going to be when support inevitably ends and they still have to fulfill their promise?
They have already shown us with their previous fair phones. They cant fix the baseband security, so any updates that come along are ASOP only, any security updates are ASOP and not baseband.
It’s not great if your security conscious.
Honestly it would be fine if they said baseband security until 2029, and software updates until 2033. Long enough for most people to use, and resell to people don’t care about baseband updates.
But they don’t say that… They say they are still getting security updates. Omitting they are not updating the baseband. Its a lie by omission. Thats not a good look for our “fair phone” friends.
I don’t see where you’ve found that is was released in 2021. All I could find was a announcement in 2022, and a release date marked as “Q2 2023” on a third party websites.
That would align with the announced 5 years of support from Qualcomm and an upstream end of support set to 2028.
https://chipguider.com/?cpu=qualcomm-qcm6490
https://gadgetversus.com/processor/qualcomm-qcm6490-specs/
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/08/fairphone-5-sets-a-new-standard-with-8-10-years-of-android-support/
It’s moot anyway, 2028 is the timeline referenced in this article citing FairPhone.
The Qualcomm product brief is copyright 2021. https://www.qualcomm.com/content/dam/qcomm-martech/dm-assets/documents/qcs-qcm6490-soc-product-brief_87-28733-1-b.pdf
Copyright may have been opposed on this document early during development. But anyway, in both case end of support is 2028, which is better than the usual 2-3 years of support for mainline chips.
This is great, and I hope they exceed it. 8 years is still less than what Apple’s oldest phones are getting. The 2013 iPhone 5s is still receiving security updates this year in 2023.
Rolling release Linux distros: “…and?”
Yeah that’s really cool for all those Linux phones out there. Oh wait, there are like two and a half models in total and none of them are great? Damn.
The Fairphone supports Linux.