Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. Also, happy Pride :3)

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    Also, happy Pride :3

    Yes, happy pride month everyone!

    I’ve decided that this year I’m going to be more open about this and wear a pride bracelet whenever I go in public this month. Including for (remote) work meetings where nobody knows… wonder if anyone will notice.

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      I’m helping with the church pride gloat, but I’m not going to signal anything because I honestly feel its not safe to.

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      Hell yeah!

      Seems there’s a lot of buzz about pride month this year. I’ve been to one pride parade as a teen and have approximately zero LGBT fashion items, but solidarity and visibility seems more important in recent years. I should find a necklace with trans flag colors or something.

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    Little table of “ai fluency” from zapier via linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/wadefoster_how-do-we-measure-ai-fluency-at-zapier-activity-7336442774650556416-nKND

    The author says it isn’t a requirements checklist, but it does have a column marked “unacceptable”, containing gems like

    Calls Al coding assistants too risky

    Has never tested Al-generated code

    Relies only on Stack Overflow snippets

    Angry goose meme: what was the ai code generator trained on, motherfucker?

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    Twitter rumour mill is churning about that guy arrested in connection with the IVF bombing - possible zizian or so it goes.

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    EA Star Wars pitch

    image transcription

    Zach Weinersmith skeeted: Movie idea:

    Effective Altruism Star Wars, in which it’s OK to be a Sith as long as the majority of your earnings go through vetted charities.

    ‪Plod‬ skeeted: And when the Death Star explodes it’s due to fraudulant accounting

    ‪tiedoton‬ skeeted: Building endless swaths of droids that do nothing but continuously experience bliss to offset any suffering caused by the Empire.

    Not sure if that would be done by the Empire or the Rebellion

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      It brings moi le grand ennui to peruse the excessively florid and terminally gallicistic language of this higly self-esteemed publication elevating the persōna of urbane wordliness M. /jaʁvɛ̃/ is purposefully cultivating. The fustian pomp the reader is treated to gives off an air of arrogance-born naïveté—much as if the erudite hack composing the presented profile of our very good friend were oblivious to the genteel PR she’s lending the man of the hour.

      For real though, it’s yet another example of liberal old media platforming a repugnant fascist bozo by playing along with their intellectual academic act, fully falling for the “evil Albert Camus” charade. These profile pieces mistake a subtle undertone of contempt for actually effective interrogation or criticism of the subject’s philosophy. Moldbug’s ideas barely have the philosophical depth of a villain from a young adult novel. The criticism of the slimy fascist’s neofeudal fantasies and his supporters’ implementation of them amounts to no more than a literary raising of eyebrows. In the name of respectable bipartisan stiff-upper-lip propriety it’s beyond the pale to call Curtis Yarvin’s ideology the puerile parody of high school libertarianism it is. A veneer of eloquence for chuds to point at and say “behold, not all nazis are stupid: this guy knows words!”

      Curtis Yarvin is just an internet age Julius Evola for the type of people who are somehow also impressed by Julius Evola.

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        Curtis Yarvin is just an internet age Julius Evola for the type of people who are somehow also impressed by Julius Evola.

        Quality sneer!

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      I wish the author had asked more follow-up questions to push back on this psychotic little imp (…easier said than done…?). Still there’s plenty of anecdotes which make Yarvin look pathetic (or just pitiable at best)

      (Yarvin told me that he’d encountered several gifted Zoomers who’d read him as preteens because his “high-I.Q. style” served as a “high-I.Q. magnet.”)

      👁️

      “In this house, we believe in science—race science,” he wrote last year.

      I wish Moldy a very ‘May you and you alone experience the consequences of your beliefs’

      Thiel has always had a prophetic touch

      …really?

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        I mean he accurately predicted the kind of dystopian shit Peter Thiel would do with a morally indefensible amount of money, so that’s something.

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    This piece, although in a way defeatist, also gives me hope because there’s at least one other person who has the same general feeling about LLMs that I do, and is a better writer.

    https://blog.glyph.im/2025/06/i-think-im-done-thinking-about-genai-for-now.html

    I’m gonna think that the latest drumbeat of pro-LLM posts (tpacek’s screed, this excrescense) is a last gasp of a system running in midair like the Coyote, before the VC money dries up.

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    This FT post about the VC ghouls getting blindsided by daddies Elon and Trump fighting is pretty entertaining

    https://www.ft.com/content/df15f13d-310f-47a5-89ed-330a6a379068

    https://archive.is/cKxyV

    David Friedberg, a co-host of the All-In podcast that often features Musk and that has become a sounding board for the Trump-aligned tech world, suggested there was a broader cost to America from the spat between the US president and the Tesla boss. “China just won,” he posted.

    Behind the scenes, prominent Silicon Valley figures were desperately trying to prevent Musk from appearing on an emergency episode of the podcast, according to two people familiar with the matter, out of concern that the billionaire would make the dispute even worse and poison the relationship with tech’s most powerful ally in Washington, vice-president JD Vance.

    L. O. L.

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    Time for my infrequent missive about the intersection of sneerspace and comedy podcasts. The current episode of one of my favourite comedy podcasts, Doughboys, jumpscared me today when one of the hosts, Mitch, came back from a toilet break and independently came up with the fundamentals of Roko’s Basilisk (the torture in cyberspace part). Anyway here it is, or if you want, you can start with the context of the toilet break. What’s important to note is that these guys do not try to present themselves as intelligent, and usually present themselves as stupid.

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    Possibly OT, but fits in with the “finance ruins everything” motif we’ve got going here:

    My wife and I have been playing Stardew Valley again, and now the algorithms occasionally find us things like this

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          I guess that’s fair. I was focusing in on his attitude towards craft, which seems incompatible with actually taking pride in doing a good job as opposed to simply skating by. But while I still take issue with his attitude there and want to give him a clockwork orange-style refresher about tech debt I think a bigger problem is that he’s taking predictable problems of the median programmer trying to use these systems and saying, effectively, “get gud”. This is especially galling given that the tech here is going to replace or supplant the kind of junior developer roles that allowed fresh graduates to actually get that experience that allows you to shepherd the next generation of junior devs (or I guess LLM assistants now).

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            fwiw, there’s a telling detail about ptaček’s attitude to people who he doesn’t see as his equals or peers: today is a second day in a row when he’s not able to use proper pronouns with regard to hazel weakly (who dared to criticise his article), despite being corrected by more than one person.

            it’s either malice, or the principal engineer at fly dot io is not able to remember a single fact despite being informed about it three times.

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      I feel like this article might deserve its own post, because I think it’s the first time I’ve ever seen an attempted counter-sneer. it’s written like someone’s idea of what a sneer is (tpacek swears sometimes and says he doesn’t give a shit! so many paragraphs into giving a shit!) but all the content is awful bootlicking and points that don’t stand up to even mild scrutiny? and now I’m wondering if tpacek’s been reading us and that’s why he’s upset, or if this is what an LLM shits out if you ask it to write critihype in the tone of a sneer

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        (e: wtf, phone client posted to subthread despite top reply arrow icon. bug bug buuuuug. the jank is ever present)

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        I bet you’re right on the money.

        Edit: someone deep in the thread dared him to post a video of one of his coding speedruns if it’s so good, which tickled me

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        Special bootlicking points:

        Source: xcancel.com

        @PITLORDMOSH: weirdly dev-hostile take for a company blog

        @tqbf (The author of the blogpost): I tried to post it on my personal blog and Kurt wouldn’t let me.

        For reference Kurt is the CEO of the company that the author works for: https://archive.md/Z2xvg

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      Not high on the list of thought crimes, but a particular ick for me:

      Also: 100% of all the Bash code you should author ever again

      Why the bash hate?

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        speaking as someone who uses bash all the time, it’s a fully equipped programming language and you absolutely should not use it as one because it’s made of footbullets. Use Python. For extra sysadmin flavour, make it a Python script that does all the hard bits with a system call to bash.

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          make it a Python script that does all the hard bits with a system call to bash

          Oh god, please no. I have PTSD from 50-line Python scripts by anti-bash fundamentalists full of os.system, subprocess.run and/or subprocess.call that could have just been 15-line bourne shell scripts.

          If you’re gluing programs together, shell scripts are often the best way to do it. If you’re not gluing programs together, do you even Unix? If you want to be fundie about it, obey shellcheck.

          It sucks that bash is such a footgun. Perl was supposed to fix a lot of that, but now everyone hates it, because it also lets people to do clever and subtly incorrect things, which have then become quasi-idiomatic. Mom, can we have a sensible human-computer interface?

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        Fr, eschewing the command line is the cs guy version of not being able to change a flat tire

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        Unsneering, I think because it has all sorts of invisible behaviors that work ok in isolation/for the common case but then eventually combine to bite you in the ass. Shellshock, for example; I think Thomas did a pretty decent rant about that one when it came out (damn, has it been more than 10 years already?)

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      This almost reads like tptacek doesn’t understand why lucidity’s piece a year ago was so effective and tried to write it from the opposite angle by punching down instead of punching up.

      I’d have thought that a guy who writes on the internet like it’s a competition sport could recognize the obvious problems of this, but maybe I’m just a vibe coding Youtuber.

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    I have written observations on how I see the nonsense crest peaking. Just the other day a collegue remarked that they had been at a conference and it was less AI than löast year.

    Today, however, I was at an audio / video trade show. I don’t usually go to such, but it could be a good opportuinty to update on what is availble, and was close by, it was free and you got a free lunch. There was some interesting stuff in the monters, Yealink had some new stuff for conference rooms. Then just before lunch everyone headed to the key note adress. And it was horrible. It was a CEO who bragged how he had got ahead in life thanks to his “entrepreneurial mindset”, though I would more say he bragged about bullshitting his way through life. And then it got worse when he got into AI. He quoted AIs answer on why AI acted in certain ways (“Just ask it!”), he claimed AI would cause at least 5 “penicillin-events” in the next 10 years, raising life spans to 180 and wiping out disease. At this time I just stood up and left, and skipped the free lunch.

    It had just been 15 minutes out of an hour, and while he hadn’t touched the topics of audio or video, he had established that nothing he would say about that could be trusted, which means it wouldn’t matter what he said about their actual products. No great surprise that a bullshit artist likes the bullshit machine, I am a little surprised more people didn’t leave, but then again social norms and free lunch.