• self@awful.systemsOP
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      9 months ago

      STOP USING AMPERSANDS

      • years of typography but no practical use found for fancy and
      • wanted to write shorter sentences anyway for a laugh? we had a tool for that: it’s called “emojis”
      • “yes, please give me some A&W root beer to wash down my mac & cheese” — statements dreamed up by the utterly Deranged

      look at what the ampersand users have been demanding our Respect for this whole time, with all the & & & we’ve built for them:

      they have played us for absolute fools

      • Scary le Poo@beehaw.org
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        9 months ago

        The ampersands gets converted to HTML (aka & by various clients).

        In general, it’s a good idea to never use ampersands on the web. A lot of sanitizers do not process them properly.

        • gerikson@awful.systems
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          9 months ago

          Man this is next level cargo cult “security” thinking.

          Here’s a protip: logoff and delete your account, it’s the only way to be safe.

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          9 months ago

          Sounds like a “not my problem” kind of problem & I don’t see why I should care.

        • Sailor Sega Saturn@awful.systems
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          9 months ago

          The majestic breadth of human language should not be truncated for some buggy soulless machine (heck not even that here, but the fear of one)

          It’s a good idea to never use shitty sanitizers on the web, but a great idea to use tags, ampersands, brackets, semicolons, commas, and dashes with great gusto to seek them out wherever they may be hiding.

          Computer may say no, but Sailor Sega Saturn says oh yes.

        • self@awful.systemsOP
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          9 months ago

          what in the fuck

          no fuck off with this. holy fuck I hate that this is your reason to hassle one of my users

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      9 months ago

      Just to check for the tiniest chance of good faith – are you having some kind of accessibility issue with ampersands, or are you an extremely weird troll? I’m assuming the latter but if so it’s one of the weirdest swing-an-a-miss trolls I’ve seen in a while.

      • Scary le Poo@beehaw.org
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        9 months ago

        The ampersands gets converted to HTML (aka & by various clients).

        In general, it’s a good idea to never use ampersands on the web. A lot of sanitizers do not process them properly.

        I’m guessing that you are a good bit older (50s/60s), otherwise you would probably know this already.

        No one is “comin’ fer yer ampersands”, but it’s worth knowing that on the internet they aren’t a great idea.

        • self@awful.systemsOP
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          9 months ago

          oh my fuck I banned them before I even saw this

          yeah we must be a fair bit older if we don’t buy their bullshit html sanitization ploy. no idea what web dev is here!

          “a lot of sanitizers don’t process them properly” holy fuck

          • self@awful.systemsOP
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            9 months ago

            it seriously took them 21 hours to come up with an excuse, and their excuse is it’s impossible to do the parts of html sanitization you can do with a basic regex and nothing else

            fuckin ampersands man how the fuck do they work

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              9 months ago

              I think literally the last place I actually had this kind problem was a case of mojibake in filenames for things that started on a windows fs served under iis, that then went to a btrfs store and chilled there for a while (like, 6+ years and however many kernels), then rsync’d onto a zfs box (on bookworm)

              And I literally just slapped the names through a python auto-remapper library after like 5min of searching to fix shit…

            • Soyweiser@awful.systems
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              9 months ago

              This has got to be a bit, in my very online time I have never seen somebody complain about &s hell even with the \ I have never seen people go ‘don’t use the backslash’ just people explain to others why the backslash behaves a bit weird (or how you can escape other characters with it, like for example the &).