can someone refresh my memory as to why the obsession with Greenland exists in the first place? Other than the US military bases there, does it provide anything strategic? Resources, oil, gold, silica, a good place to drop bombs from, what?
The thawing arctic is going to disrupt the entire world order by creating all new shipping routes and zones of conflict. There is also the rich irony of an administration that denies climate change trying to strategize around its direct consequence.
1930s shenanigans. Everyone jumps to the Nazis but we must not forget the Technocrats, especially since Elon’s grandparents were silvershirts. I’m sure Thiel and the others are on board with technocracy.
The Technocracy movement had its brief heyday in the 1930s, its leading proponent engineer Howard Scott (1890-1970) and his Technocracy Incorporated, founded in 1933. The movement was ideologically somewhat diverse and fractious, but Scott’s version was fueled by the Great Depression and the crisis of capitalism, quack economics, post-First-World-War isolationism, and an infatuation with Fascist form and ritual. At the core of its ideology was a rejection of the “price system” underlying the global economy, in which money as a medium of exchange determines the value of goods and services and financial considerations are fundamental to all economic decision making. Citing the Depression as Exhibit A, movement adherents viewed this system as inherently unsustainable and predicted a total system collapse no later than 1940.
Technocracy Inc.’s prescriptive program had economic, political and geopolitical elements. At the core was a shift from the price system to what Scott called “an energy theory of value”, in which goods and services were to be valued based not on money but in terms of the energy inputs required to produce them. This in turn would necessitate the abandonment of democracy and the embrace of a technocracy—government by an unelected, technically skilled, empirically-driven elite with the expertise necessary to determine values and make rational resource-allocation decisions. The outward manifestations of this authoritarian outlook had a distinctly Fascist flavor: Technocracy Inc. members wore a uniform of double-breasted suit, gray shirt, and blue tie, with the red Technocracy logo worn on the lapel; drove gray-painted cars; and saluted one another in public.
Think about using energy input as a pricing mechanism. Then think about cryptocurrency.
There is something. It’s projection. The US knows that with global warming the extraction of resources in arctic regions that were previously too difficult or impossible to extract, will now or soon be possible. Large amounts of oil and rare earth materials. The US knows how valuable those resources will be, especially with China potentially cutting off rare earth supplies that the MIC needs to continue it’s wars for control. The projection here is that the US thinks that Russia and China think exactly like them, and would “obviously” also want to steal Greenland’s resources for themselves. So their justification is that they’ve gotta do it first.
what ive seen that’s most convincing is trump feels he is owed it; for all his perceived favors to europe they need to give him something back and it’s making him very angry they don’t give it on their own initiative.
exact same thing is going on with the nobel prize, he’s cut out the venezuelan emigré opposition entirely because a woman didn’t facilitate his getting a shiny trophy.
every strategic/economic target of the occupation would be rammed through under danish administration (even an independent greenland wouldnt have much hope opposing it), it’s genuinely just the mad impulse of the emperor guiding the ship
It is rich in oil. And it also has a lot of rare earth elements. The US probably recognises that they need to scramble for as much of the world’s resources while they still have the power to do so.
can someone refresh my memory as to why the obsession with Greenland exists in the first place? Other than the US military bases there, does it provide anything strategic? Resources, oil, gold, silica, a good place to drop bombs from, what?
The thawing arctic is going to disrupt the entire world order by creating all new shipping routes and zones of conflict. There is also the rich irony of an administration that denies climate change trying to strategize around its direct consequence.
1930s shenanigans. Everyone jumps to the Nazis but we must not forget the Technocrats, especially since Elon’s grandparents were silvershirts. I’m sure Thiel and the others are on board with technocracy.
Think about using energy input as a pricing mechanism. Then think about cryptocurrency.
Trump’s rationale is if we don’t invade then Russia or China will take it.
okay sure but why would they want it?
Who knows, guy’s mind is pudding and he’s surrounded by fascists.
Barron played hoi4 and invaded greenland
alright, i thought that was the case but i thought maybe there was something
There is something. It’s projection. The US knows that with global warming the extraction of resources in arctic regions that were previously too difficult or impossible to extract, will now or soon be possible. Large amounts of oil and rare earth materials. The US knows how valuable those resources will be, especially with China potentially cutting off rare earth supplies that the MIC needs to continue it’s wars for control. The projection here is that the US thinks that Russia and China think exactly like them, and would “obviously” also want to steal Greenland’s resources for themselves. So their justification is that they’ve gotta do it first.
Frankly, they don’t even believe that Russia and China want it or are in any spot to take it.
The need for rare earth materials is reason enough to take control.
Mineral resources and a better footing to a thawing arctic.
They’ve already got military bases there though.
what ive seen that’s most convincing is trump feels he is owed it; for all his perceived favors to europe they need to give him something back and it’s making him very angry they don’t give it on their own initiative.
exact same thing is going on with the nobel prize, he’s cut out the venezuelan emigré opposition entirely because a woman didn’t facilitate his getting a shiny trophy.
every strategic/economic target of the occupation would be rammed through under danish administration (even an independent greenland wouldnt have much hope opposing it), it’s genuinely just the mad impulse of the emperor guiding the ship
It is rich in oil. And it also has a lot of rare earth elements. The US probably recognises that they need to scramble for as much of the world’s resources while they still have the power to do so.