I use my paypal card reader! Both when holding garage sales and when visiting, it’s pretty normal and a lot of people use it without blinking.
If you pearl-clutching Christians fearful of change don’t want a cashless society, maybe stop pouring all your support behind the political powers that want to see giant megacorporations flourish and crush out small businesses. The people who want to control your rmoney are not the banks nearly as much as the Walmart down the street that can now take credit card payments simply by glancing at the store as you pass.
I’m no fucking “”“christian”“” nor am I some fucking calcified “”“boomer”“” but I do like what little privacy I can still have and not having the corporation that owns the grocery store tracking all my purchases is something I’d rather keep being able to do, among other things.
Sure. And in the dystopia where there’s no cash, you’d be expected to pay sales tax on those garage sale purchases. You might even be required to itemize what you bought, and if it’s some intellectual property, the IP owner might sue whoever sold it as a breach of the license.
I’m speculating here, but believe you me things could get very very bad if no one is paying attention to what legislation is passed in this world.
There’s already businesses that are cashless and unless people talk about it the trend might well continue to the point it has enough of a foothold that we might not be able to stop it.
Spain, Belgium, and France have banned cash transactions above a threshhold (e.g. €3k) at least 5 years ago already. Cannot pay tax using cash in Belgium. Think about that for a minute.
New recent law in Belgium: all businesses (incl. self-employed workers and even landlords renting out property) MUST accept electronic payment. Try doing that without using a bank.
sigh
If a simple majority of businesses decided to go 100% cashless, the government would have no choice but to embrace it.
Again: too many of you sit there in your chairs and say “oh well that could NEVER happen” then when it does you’re shocked, shocked I tell you, that it DID happen.
I get pretty fucking tired of explaining things over and over again to people who apparently are just plain too dense to grasp what I’m saying and be rational about it.
Why do you think 210 is statistically insignificant? Is there a reason why the central limit theorem does not apply in this case?
If you’re more fixated on the samples coming from Mastodon, can you explain why you might expect cashless proponents to be even fewer in populations outside of Mastodon? IMO, a Mastodon-using population is more likely to embrace individual rights and condemn imbalances of power that favor giant corporations like banks. I believe if the same survey is carried out outside of Mastodon, the 26% will be even bigger, if different.
Mastodon is not niche. Mastodon is a diverse community of nerds and low tech people, artistic brains and analytical brains, white collar workers and blue collar workers. A substantial portion of Mastodon is from Reddit refugees. Reddit is no more niche than Facebook.
The greater Mastodon venue who that poll reached lacks right wing conservatives, who tend to stay in their bubble of extremist networks. That does not make Mastodon “niche”. Running the same survey on a right wing Mastodon node might be interesting, but we can see from the linked poll that political affiliation is generally orthoganol on this issue.
You know people like you scoff at people just like me, and there’s more of me than you think there are, then when Bad Shit happens and it’s right in your face, you scream and cry and yell about how it’s So Unfair, and whine to your congresscritters about it, and then you post on social media for all the world to see: “Why didn’t anyone TELL US this would happen!?”. Then those of us who pointed it all out long ago remind you that we DID point it out, and you get all mad at us because we didn’t make you BELIEVE it was going to happen.
Go do whatever the fuck you want, idiot. Go advocate for things that seem to you are just “”“for your convenience”“” and ignore the long-term consequences of things. Go play with the SHINY RING OF KEYS they’re dangling in front of you to distract you from what’s really going on. Last of all enjoy your 80-90 IQ ignorance while it lasts. You probably vote for Trump, too.
Why do garage sales have to go away, I just went to one and used zelle to send the guy money.
I was scratching my head with that one too. HOAs are doing a better job at killing the garage sale.
HOAs only control 25-27% of housing in the US. A number that should be zero, but not enough to kill off all garage sales, by any stretch.
I use my paypal card reader! Both when holding garage sales and when visiting, it’s pretty normal and a lot of people use it without blinking.
If you pearl-clutching Christians fearful of change don’t want a cashless society, maybe stop pouring all your support behind the political powers that want to see giant megacorporations flourish and crush out small businesses. The people who want to control your rmoney are not the banks nearly as much as the Walmart down the street that can now take credit card payments simply by glancing at the store as you pass.
I’m no fucking “”“christian”“” nor am I some fucking calcified “”“boomer”“” but I do like what little privacy I can still have and not having the corporation that owns the grocery store tracking all my purchases is something I’d rather keep being able to do, among other things.
Get prepaid cards then
Prepaid cards are neither gratis nor anonymous in some countries.
Why are you like this though
Sure. And in the dystopia where there’s no cash, you’d be expected to pay sales tax on those garage sale purchases. You might even be required to itemize what you bought, and if it’s some intellectual property, the IP owner might sue whoever sold it as a breach of the license.
I’m speculating here, but believe you me things could get very very bad if no one is paying attention to what legislation is passed in this world.
No one is pushing for a “cashless society” like this post describes. It’s fear mongering.
There’s already businesses that are cashless and unless people talk about it the trend might well continue to the point it has enough of a foothold that we might not be able to stop it.
There is a massive difference between a business being cashless and a government enforced “cashless society” like this post describes.
Spain, Belgium, and France have banned cash transactions above a threshhold (e.g. €3k) at least 5 years ago already. Cannot pay tax using cash in Belgium. Think about that for a minute.
New recent law in Belgium: all businesses (incl. self-employed workers and even landlords renting out property) MUST accept electronic payment. Try doing that without using a bank.
sigh If a simple majority of businesses decided to go 100% cashless, the government would have no choice but to embrace it. Again: too many of you sit there in your chairs and say “oh well that could NEVER happen” then when it does you’re shocked, shocked I tell you, that it DID happen.
I get pretty fucking tired of explaining things over and over again to people who apparently are just plain too dense to grasp what I’m saying and be rational about it.
Whatev, dude.
26% in a recent poll:
https://layer8.space/@hyakinthos/112554837920009346
A Mastodon poll with 210 responses is hardly representative.
Why do you think 210 is statistically insignificant? Is there a reason why the central limit theorem does not apply in this case?
If you’re more fixated on the samples coming from Mastodon, can you explain why you might expect cashless proponents to be even fewer in populations outside of Mastodon? IMO, a Mastodon-using population is more likely to embrace individual rights and condemn imbalances of power that favor giant corporations like banks. I believe if the same survey is carried out outside of Mastodon, the 26% will be even bigger, if different.
The same reason someone might think Linux is a wildly popular choice of OS on Lemmy. These communities are very niche.
Mastodon is not niche. Mastodon is a diverse community of nerds and low tech people, artistic brains and analytical brains, white collar workers and blue collar workers. A substantial portion of Mastodon is from Reddit refugees. Reddit is no more niche than Facebook.
The greater Mastodon venue who that poll reached lacks right wing conservatives, who tend to stay in their bubble of extremist networks. That does not make Mastodon “niche”. Running the same survey on a right wing Mastodon node might be interesting, but we can see from the linked poll that political affiliation is generally orthoganol on this issue.
In a cash based society they might make us nail coins to our body with special screws only the government can undo.
You, if digital transactions came before cash.
You know people like you scoff at people just like me, and there’s more of me than you think there are, then when Bad Shit happens and it’s right in your face, you scream and cry and yell about how it’s So Unfair, and whine to your congresscritters about it, and then you post on social media for all the world to see: “Why didn’t anyone TELL US this would happen!?”. Then those of us who pointed it all out long ago remind you that we DID point it out, and you get all mad at us because we didn’t make you BELIEVE it was going to happen.
Go do whatever the fuck you want, idiot. Go advocate for things that seem to you are just “”“for your convenience”“” and ignore the long-term consequences of things. Go play with the SHINY RING OF KEYS they’re dangling in front of you to distract you from what’s really going on. Last of all enjoy your 80-90 IQ ignorance while it lasts. You probably vote for Trump, too.