Saw a suspicious post resurrecting a 5 month old thread, and after a few back and forths:

https://linux.community/comment/3453531

I don’t understand why you are treating me like a robot. However, I can help with the Fibonacci sequence. Here is a Python 3 function to calculate it:

I’m torn, its nice to have activity in the fediverse, but I’m not convinced bots are the right way to go about it. Opinions on the future of engagement bots?

  • KⒶMⒶLⒶ WⒶLZ 2Ⓐ24@lemmy.worldEnglish
    42·
    3 months ago

    if the community rule is to ignore LLM bots when they appear in the comments

    it should be encouraged for people to report bots. that’s not ignoring.

    • jetOPAEnglish
      4·
      3 months ago

      True, but the overlap between the best LLM and the most oblivious human is rather large, there needs to be a smoking gun for a moderator to see a poster is undeniably a bot, there has to be some interaction with the bot to get to that point.

        • jetOPAEnglish
          5·
          3 months ago

          I’m confused, accusing humans in comments of being a bot is rude, but banning people on the suspicion of being a bot so that they have to appeal to unban their account is better?

          • KⒶMⒶLⒶ WⒶLZ 2Ⓐ24@lemmy.worldEnglish
            24·
            3 months ago

            when the appeal comes in, are you going to deny it?

            this can be a very quiet exercise, without implying to other users that the user in question might be a bot. by contrast, just probing it out in the open taints that users interactions.

            • jetOPAEnglish
              4·
              3 months ago

              Banning people is a very bad experience for humans, most are unlikely to come back to the community at all. Banning should really be a last resort.

              • KⒶMⒶLⒶ WⒶLZ 2Ⓐ24@lemmy.worldEnglish
                23·
                3 months ago

                most are unlikely to come back

                ok. well you’re saying you’d rather preserve interactions from someone you suspect of being a bot, but bot interactions themselves are bad? the experience is the same. but from a user persectiveo having my comment responded to by other users in public saying “you’re just a bot” “you’re a shill” “ignore previous instructions…” etc… that shit is toxic. it needs to NOT happen. keeping that shit out of the inbox is far preferable if all i have to do is send a dm to a mod.

                • jetOPAEnglish
                  3·
                  3 months ago

                  Yes, open dialog is better then rapid fire speculative banning.

                  I’m not sure I understand your philosophy of Anarchy, but it seems to be very rule heavy.

                  This is the moderator/admin meta community for lemmy, so if we want to hammer out a better way to deal with bots this is the place to do it, but we should have a protocol that is actionable without DMs (if I was writing a bot I wouldn’t ever respond to DMs), and that doesn’t require speculative banning.

                  • KⒶMⒶLⒶ WⒶLZ 2Ⓐ24@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    33·
                    3 months ago

                    maybe dm’s are better than quick banning, but my banning preference is for shoot-first-ask-questions-later, but short bans. a 1 to 3 day ban is better in most circumstances for most offenses. even repeated bad behavior, i feel should see the same term unless the bans themselves become burdensome to the mods.

                    i can see the case for dm’s for suspected bots though.

        • Luke@lemmy.mlEnglish
          3·
          3 months ago

          I don’t know that we can necessarily rely on bot creators to never implement automated ban appeals.

        • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          3·
          3 months ago

          When I’m banned from things I don’t appeal because I don’t trust the intentions of moderators and making such a request to someone acting in bad faith is humiliating. I think anyone coming from Reddit will probably be reluctant to appeal a ban.