Dunno why this thread is filled with people equating Hezbollah and Hamas, but they are different organizations representing different groups of people. Israel attacked Hezbollah with exploding pagers, not Hamas.
It’s a pretty big and important distinction, because this attack by Israel was only tangentially related to their genocide in Palestine. It’s further evidence of their expansionist goals as they continue a campaign of terror against other countries in the region.
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ding ding ding! what’s the prize for our contestant, Judy?
iiiiit’s never ending war and genocide bundle!
and that they’re all terrorists.
Well, not all, but I know at least one such country
Sure, but they are different just like France and Poland were different in WWII. Very much on the same side in a fight against expansionism.
So…your theory that this proves Israeli expansionism is based on the fact that Hezbollah is not Hamas… While conveniently ignoring the generations of bad blood and historically relevant context. Could you be any more reductive?
It’s a pretty big and important distinction, because this attack by Israel was only tangentially related to their genocide in Palestine
Hezbollah chose to enter this Israel/palestine war, this isn’t simply Israel taking advantage of the awful conflict to try and gain more land, it’s a blatant reaction. Sure if it results in more land, great, but this sort of thing is to be expected when you send missile after missile at a country. But no, Isreal would totally only respond to lethal threats if they can meet their expansionist goals right? That’s the only explanation of motivation right?
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/what-hezbollah
Hezbollah is a Shiite Muslim political party and militant group based in Lebanon, where its extensive security apparatus, political organization, and social services network have fostered its reputation as “a state within a state.” Founded in the chaos of the fifteen-year Lebanese Civil War, the Iran-backed group is driven by its opposition to Israel and its resistance to Western influence in the Middle East.
Due to its history of carrying out terrorist attacks internationally, Hezbollah has been designated a terrorist organization by the United States and many other countries, though some just apply this label to its armed wing. Hezbollah’s deep-rooted alliances with Iran and Syria have transformed it into an increasingly effective military force, creating a formidable opponent for its longtime enemy Israel. Escalating border clashes between the two adversaries now threaten to open a new battlefront in the ongoing Israel-Hamas war, which would come at great cost to economically devastated Lebanon.
Yes Israel’s disgusting expansionism is a problem, no it doesn’t create a clean convenient context that aligns with moral values and right to life like the one your comment is attempting to present. Obligatory fuck the IDF, and fuck Hamas, and sure why not Hez as well. There are no angels.
Right, the high moral ground here is “burn them all”.
Please teach me more.
Why stop emphasizing right before a very critical point that is obvious:
which would come at great cost to economically devastated Lebanon.
Hezbollah is not in a position to benefit from any altercations. It is why they aren’t being the aggressor. There’s just Israeli offensives taking place. Remember Israel is still also doing the same things in the West Bank they’ve been doing.
The absolute and incredible disparity of capabilities cannot be ignored. They aren’t justification of any, but justified damnation for those in power and control.
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The pagers blew up in Lebanon, unless there has been another attack in Palestine?
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They did that to Hezbollah in Lebanon, not to Palestinians.
Apparently they actually installed explosives into the pagers themselves.
I think this post was more about the endless investigations and repeated lies. A primary example video:
Hind Rajab, 200 Days Later: US Keeps Letting Israel Investigate Itself
You got a source for that?
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They what?!
Israel detonated a whole bunch of pagers in Lebanon. It’s cartoonishly evil, and injured* a shit load of civilians.
Civilians? A shit load? Except that little girl, no mainstream media mentioned any other civilian
It was a surgical level sabotage with almost zero collateral damage
… You are aware of what happens when you explode bombs in civilian heavy areas. You are also aware that is a war crime right?
also Lebinon is not at war so none of there citizens are valid targets
Well if we re playing “words & technicality” here, so yeah i guess that would be a “war crime”, if Israel did it, but again technically who knows? Maybe Allah felt a lil bloody today, and that’s his punishment
If we abandon “technicality”, then while not "technically " at war, Lebanon keeps firing missiles at Israel on regular basis, so that kinda justifies the killing of the supposed “civilians”.
Just ask: If Hezbollah did it to Israelis, what would you call it?
A Masterclass in warfare.
And you’re commenting in bad faith at a beginner level.
the diffrence being that Missles are valid military tactics esepcialy when sent to military targets, and as far as I am aware that is what Hezbula is doing, as for palistine, as an opressed group fighting for freedom the UN has a seperate set of rules of war they are permitted to engage in, does that make it asymetical, yes but that is how the internaltional law is written (and you dont need to agree with me editorializing of palistine for the seperate rules of war that they use kick in)
Isreal sent in bombs with no way of discriminating civilian and military targets, and knew said individuals would bring it into civlilan centers, the fact they did that in a way where it entered civilian centers, with no military objective is also a war crime.
we also can be pretty sure that this shipment was not all going to Hezbula and it can be reasonably assumed others in lebenon where effected, though I will admit this part is me thinking outloud with no evidence to back it up yet
What are you saying? Lol i can’t argue with someone who s trying to gaslight me into thinking this never happened https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/27/middleeast/lebanon-israel-golan-strikes-intl-latam/ Lebanon literally fires indiscriminately, because they don’t have anything else to shoot with.
Israel surgically targeted members of Hezbollah, in this case (i am not arguing about gaza or anything else). This a masterclass of warfare. Unlike their usual strike in the middle of refugee camps lol
If Hezbollah did exactly this to Israel, you wouldn’t be saying “surgically targeted” or “a masterclass in warfare”
This is terrorism. Lebanese civilians are people like anyone else, including you
Thousands of pagers simultaneously exploded across Lebanon and parts of Syria on September 17, 2024, resulting in at least 12 deaths, including at least two children and two health workers, and at least 2,800 injuries, according to Lebanon’s Ministry of Health.
Photographs and videos filmed by victims and witnesses to the incident and reviewed by Human Rights Watch showed pagers exploding in various locales, such as grocery stores. Other videos that appear to be linked to the incident show adults and children in emergency rooms with severe penetrating traumatic injuries to their heads, torsos. and limbs, and other injuries consistent with the detonation of high explosives.
Hezbollah, in a statement, said that the pagers belonged “to employees of various Hezbollah units and institutions” and blamed the Israeli government. US and former Israeli officials speaking to the media said that Israel was responsible for the attack. The Israeli military has not commented.
“Customary international humanitarian law prohibits the use of booby traps – objects that civilians are likely to be attracted to or are associated with normal civilian daily use – precisely to avoid putting civilians at grave risk and produce the devastating scenes that continue to unfold across Lebanon today. The use of an explosive device whose exact location could not be reliably known would be unlawfully indiscriminate, using a means of attack that could not be directed at a specific military target and as a result would strike military targets and civilians without distinction. A prompt and impartial investigation into the attacks should be urgently conducted.”
- Lama Fakih, Middle East and North Africa Director at Human Rights Watch
If you read the report from CNN Hezbulah takes credit for attacks in the area, however does not take credit for the one the article is talking about.
I do not see the reasoning for a military group to take credit for attacks in an area but not this one if it was one they launced. I will be honest my analisis beyond here would be tanted by my own personal bias however.
We are also talking about civilians living in occupied territory that even the UN has said is illegal and ought to be returned, agian I would like to refer you to the international law that allowes for asymetiric warfare in causes of national liberation.
Your argument equates to “Hezbollah targets civilians so Israel can too”. Either you severely lack common sense or in reality you have a bias towards other middle eastern countries and you think they are basically all terrorists and everyone in Lebanon is exalted about the Hezbollah governance.
Nope, i stated many times that those are not civilians.
two kids and medical workers?
supposed “civilians”
Children? Seriously?
I don’t know who you are talking to? I am speaking about Hezbollah operatives using pagers. I was talking about them this whole fucking thread, please do the effort to read at least before throwing “think of the children!!11”
If we follow your line of argument, October 7th was not a terrorist attack but only a war action and Hamas is only a contender in that war, not a terrorist group. Do you agree with that?
The death toll rose from eight to nine on Tuesday night while the number of injured remained at 2,750, Lebanon’s health ministry said.
I’ll admit I misread earlier statements, and updated my previous comment to reflect that.
But quit the bullshit. There is nothing “surgical” about ~3k people getting injured. That’s collateral damage, and a fucking lot of it.
That’s a precise strike against enemies :)
You can say this only because you don’t think you’ll ever be the enemy and you have no empathy for others.
Also, you lack knowledge on a wide range of topics that are involved here.
A smarter person would recognize their lack of knowledge and would not be speaking on topic.
Their username is trying to equate anti-zionism with blood libel, they’re not interested in honesty.
People still feed the trolls, it’s human nature…
Oh wow thanks for a detailed psy session! Never knew
I am sure you still don’t know. Based on your reaction, I doubt you ever will.
Enjoy your headache free life.
Oh didn’t you hear, that’s starting next week… /s
This user hasn’t posted about anything else for thousands of posts/comments since joining the platform 10 months ago. I wonder why.
Because it’s worth talking about
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Maybe you’re not happy that people are bringing attention to the genocide happening in Palestine but if that’s the case I would question your intentions, not the intentions of the person bringing attention to it.
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But you did jump to a bullshit conclusion without evidence. First. Only, it was about OP instead of this guy.
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Very bold of you to complain about people jumping to bullshit conclusions, when you seem to immediately do that with anybody that disagrees with you. Also, watching and stalking somebody online for almost a year is not the flex you think it is. Block him, report him, move on.
What are you doing watching someone for a year? What could you possibly gain from that effort? OP clearly lives in your head rent free
You know you’re allowed to block users instead of obsessing and stalking them…
Fuckin yikes lol, you’re indistinguishable from a qanon type
These bots posting Israel - Palestine war content tire me. Mods should probably ban this bot. They’re not even posting in the right communities, lol.
Besides disagreeing with you, what makes you think OP is a bot?
