Ken goes through the red meat hit list.

For our friends who prefer articles and data you can see the same information here. https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/skeptical-doctors

Berry also cites his references in the video description

RCT’s replacing animal fat with vegetable oil: Sidney Diet Heart Study:  https://www.bmj.com/content/346/bmj.e…

8 year long randomized controlled trial in humans Minnesota Coronary Experiment:  https://www.bmj.com/content/bmj/353/b…

5 year long randomized controlled trial in humans

Corn Oil in Treatment of Ischemic Heart Disease:  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti…

2 year long randomized controlled trial in humans

If they could do it, why can’t we?

  • jetOPMAEnglish
    51·
    3 days ago

    I think one of the biggest confounders in the discussions, and the reason people keep talking past each other, is there not considering the metabolic context of a carnivore diet.

    A pizza with a little meat on it, is mostly sugar, via carbohydrates. And seed oil.

    A fast food meal, is mostly carbohydrates, buns, oils, soda, and a little bit of beef.

    These two example meals are really unhealthy, the meat is not what’s making it unhealthy

    If the basis for your epidemiological cohort considers red meat eaters the people eating pizza and fast food, and not the people doing zero carb carnivore. Everything is going to look bad. Because all of that sugar is really bad

    • jetOPMAEnglish
      21·
      3 days ago

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDQofCXuYik

      Here is a 13 minute video, Dr saladino orders food from McDonald’s, then breaks it down and analyzes it. Really showing that yes there’s meat in it, but totality of the meal is really unhealthy. “Metabolic nightmare”

      But, in a pinch, just ordering the quarter pounder from McDonald’s just the patty is clean. So if you’re traveling, it’s an option

      The McDonald’s salt packets even has dextrose (sugar) in them!

      Salt, Sodium Silicoaluminate, Dextrose, Potassium Iodide.

      • Dr. Bob@lemmy.caEnglish
        2·
        3 days ago

        That was the advice of Barry Sears 30 years ago in the zone diet book. IIRC his actual advice was two hamburgers rather than the quarter pounder

        • jetOPMAEnglish
          2·
          3 days ago

          I just put the regular hamburger patty vs the 1/4lb hamburger patty into their calculator.

          They both look clean, good option! (7g protein vs 18g protein)