Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. Also, happy April Fool’s in advance.)

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    Today on the orange site, an AI bro is trying to reason through why people think he’s weird for not disclosing his politics to people he’s trying to be friendly with. Previously, he published a short guide on how to talk about politics, which — again, very weird, no possible explanation for this — nobody has adopted. Don’t worry, he’s well-read:

    So far I’ve only read Harry Potter and The Methods of Rationality, but can say it is an excellent place to start.

    The thread is mostly centered around one or two pearl-clutching conservatives who don’t want their beliefs examined:

    I find it astonishing that anyone would ask, [“who did you vote for?”] … In my social circle, anyway, the taboo on this question is very strong.

    To which the top reply is my choice sneer:

    In my friend group it’s clear as day: either you voted to kill and deport other people in the friend group or you didn’t. Pretty obvious the group would like to know if you’re secretly interested in their demise.

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      So far I’ve only read Harry Potter and The Methods of Rationality, but can say it is an excellent place to start.

      beware the man of one book

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      Wow, farriers are going crazy with these modern horseshoe designs!

      Political propaganda graphic, transcription below

      image transcription

      Above: a single axis scatter plot. The ends of the axis are labeled “Left” and “Right”. Data points are distributed similarly to normal distribution, the center being more concentrated than the extremes. Caption: “What people think the political spectrum is vs What it actually is”.

      Below: A two-dimensional scatter plot. The ends of the horizontal axis are labeled “Left” and “Right” and the vertical axis is labeled “Independent Thought” at the top and “Groupthink” at the bottom. The data points are evenly distributed inside a bell curve shape, with the peak of the hump at Independent Thought and between Left and Right, and the wide bottom of the bell spanning the whole Left-Right axis at maximum Groupthink.

      Data points near the top of the bell (Independent-Center) labeled ‘“Un-intentional moderates” (from Paul Graham’s The Two Kinds of Moderate)’. [Original image uses double quotes around the term Un-intentional moderates and single quotes around the title of Paul Graham’s shitpost.]

      Data points at the bottom center of the bell (Groupthink-Center) labeled “Intentional moderates”.

      In the bottom corner a watermark crediting the image to “@shw1nm”.

      I love the implication that being an independent thinker means agreeing with both the majority and other independent thinkers.

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        Finally, someone has solved the political compass. No-one will ever come up with a new political spectrum again. Soon we will have world peace

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            Chart 7

            “THE REAL POLITICAL SPECTRUM”

            On the left “SERVANTS OF THE AEONS”, humanoid energy beings among space nebulae. On the right “SLAVES OF THE ARCHONS”, reptilian humanoids.

            The spectrum from left to right, with symbols in parentheses:

            • Gnosis(Ringed cross): Release from the mortal coil renders politics useless. All achieve oneness with the Monad and harmony is restored to the cosmos. See: The Nag Hammadi Library
            • Erisianism (chaos star): Total freedom. Management of affairs is unnecessary as universally well aligned chakras promote benevolent behaviour from all. See: Atlantis
            • Syndicalism (five-pointed star): Public participation in institutions is combined with no state. Affairs are managed at the local level. See: The Pirate Kingdom of Libertalia
            • Libertarianism (Gadsden rattlesnake): Public oversight of institutions is combined with a limited state. Affairs are managed at the local level. See: Early United States
            • Republicanism (classical colonnade): Influence of industry and finance on the state is controlled by a constitution and a system of check and balances. See: Early United States
            • Corporatocracy (dollar sign): State and industry form a de-facto alliance. Resource allocation subject to secret policy favouring the elite. See: The United States, European Union
            • Communism (hammer and sickle): Industry and state inseparable. Resource allocation subject to central policy. See: Soviet Russia, North Korea
            • Fascism (swastika): Industry and state inseparable. Resource allocation and reproduction subject to central policy. Eugenics in effect. See: Nazi Germany.
            • Monarchism (crown): All resources under the authority of hereditary elite. Elite practices eugenics in its own ranks. Underclass viewed as different species. See*: Feudal Europe*
            • Illuminism (eye of providence): Elite and underclass now form two distinct species. All world’s resources controlled by the elite. All activities subject to central policy. See: Brave New World, Nineteen-Eighty Four
            Chart 8

            A conventional two-axis (Left/Right, Authoritarian/Libertarian) political compass chart. Authoritarian left, authoritarian right, and libertarian right all represented by a spooky profile portrait of Max Stirner smoking a cigar. Libertarian Left quadrant contains a smaller image of the diagram itself, which contains still smaller image of the diagram itself, except the libertarian left quadrant says “decentralized chomskian anarcho-molotov-cocktailism” in unreadably small type.

            I feel I’ve lost enough sanity transcribing these that I’m almost ready to make a political compass chart myself.

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            LOL it’s almost as if the prerequisite to making a political compass is to be completely fucked in the head

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              What’s almost causing me to spiral is the commonality of socialism and communism being portrayed as on the road to monarchism. I’m not spiralling because I very quickly realise that these are all made by idiots, and/or that what they are focusing on is the perception of socialism and communism as being authoritarian.

              That and “antifa fascists” in chart 4. AKA the Scists. lol

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        So “unintentional moderates” are those that both choose deliberately to believe in centrist political ideology and to participate in groupthink?

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        Hi, I’m an unimtentional moderate centrist! I don’t have an ideology, only views! My overton window is a peephole! Kamala is a far leftist! Trump is orange! People should stop treating politics like team sports and join the non team sports tribe like me! Political correctness gone mad! Let me tell you about Chesterton’s fence! Everyone’s sheeple except my flock! Say it with me: I’m an independent thinker!

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          I’m just glad all my friends are such smart rational independent thinkers that we’ve all independently come to the same conclusion that the status quo is perfect!

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        Did they try to add a bell curve in a place where it shouldn’t be te last image? Im fascinated by how little sense it makes, and by how bad the adding a groupthink axis is.