So why have a democratic party if they are randomly going to break ranks to enable fascism.
Literally any time a bill comes along that will make regular people’s lives worse for the rich to benefit conveniently there’s always enough dem traitors to get it passed.
The party that’s mostly against fascism still is a party that’s is not against fascism. It’s against it in optics only, when at critical juncture after juncture it makes the decisions that enable or even help the fascists. There were so many things these dumb fucks could have done. Some people even from the party itself were screaming the solutions. At this point the only hope I see is the Bernie/AOC program. The Democratic party, as currently formulated, governed and funded has demonstrated that it can’t resist fascism. You have to do anything in your power to elect enough socialist independent reps that vote with Bernie/AOC’s agenda and hold the balance of power. And organize unions. Otherwise the Democrats will win again by default, do nothing material of substance and pave the way for the next wave of fascism to sweep power.
Two thirds of Americans thought Kamala was too far left. The idea that we will see hundreds of socialists elected to Congress, which is more than have been elected to anything in this country, is ridiculous.
People support Bernie and AOC because they are willing to stand up and fight. Not because they’re socialists.
You should look upcheck the study Bernie conducted mid last year. It tested socialist policies without calling them such. If I remember correctly most were popular with the significant majorities of both Republicans and Democrats. Socialist ideas are popular in the US. People very much support Bernie and AOC’s agenda which is full of socialist policies. E.g. universal healthcare, free education.
Yes fascism has already won, we’re at the tip of a trend that started in the 80s. Well actually earlier but the 80s present a recognizable acceleration point. We (not just the US) need to reverse the trend, not change how steep it is for a time.
A Nazi sit down at a table with 10 others, and nobody leaves. How many Nazis are now sat at the table?
The Democrats should whip their members harder instead of giving members ‘outs’ that makes the party as whole look uncommitted - Pelosi managed to do it for years, even with those ‘pesky progressives’.
Use the billion dollars of DNC leverage and lean on them - just like Elon’s unlimited money has openly threatened to primary anyone “disloyal” on the right.
Hardly. How about letting ‘moderate’ reactionaries stay in your club?
Manchin wasn’t ejected from the caucus despite his numerous blocking votes and hostage holding, but they did cut off party fund disbursements
. Never kicked out of the party, despite him leaning into Trump.
Manchin glazing Trump at his 2024 inauguration speaks words, even without his problematic voting record on immigration, the border wall, or routinely blocking the Democratic agenda - to me runs beyond the ‘sensible silent majority’ centrism tropes, and veers to bedfellows of fascism:
I also extend my congratulations to [President Trump on his victory. He is our President, and I am committed to supporting him in moving this country forward…
As we reflect on this election, one lesson stands out clearly: The candidate who appeals to the sensible majority of Americans – the center – wins… In this 2024 election, Trump was again the candidate better able to connect with the concerns of the sensible majority – prioritizing the economy, securing our borders, and responding to the core needs of working Americans.
That doesn’t even make sense. Those ten went with the majority. What was there for the one hundred forty to do?
So why have a democratic party if they are randomly going to break ranks to enable fascism.
Literally any time a bill comes along that will make regular people’s lives worse for the rich to benefit conveniently there’s always enough dem traitors to get it passed.
Because a party that is mostly against fascism is better than none that are at all? Which I should not to have to say.
The party that’s mostly against fascism still is a party that’s is not against fascism. It’s against it in optics only, when at critical juncture after juncture it makes the decisions that enable or even help the fascists. There were so many things these dumb fucks could have done. Some people even from the party itself were screaming the solutions. At this point the only hope I see is the Bernie/AOC program. The Democratic party, as currently formulated, governed and funded has demonstrated that it can’t resist fascism. You have to do anything in your power to elect enough socialist independent reps that vote with Bernie/AOC’s agenda and hold the balance of power. And organize unions. Otherwise the Democrats will win again by default, do nothing material of substance and pave the way for the next wave of fascism to sweep power.
Two thirds of Americans thought Kamala was too far left. The idea that we will see hundreds of socialists elected to Congress, which is more than have been elected to anything in this country, is ridiculous.
People support Bernie and AOC because they are willing to stand up and fight. Not because they’re socialists.
According to you, fascism has already won.
Not hundreds, tens would likely be enough.
You should
look upcheck the study Bernie conducted mid last year. It tested socialist policies without calling them such. If I remember correctly most were popular with the significant majorities of both Republicans and Democrats. Socialist ideas are popular in the US. People very much support Bernie and AOC’s agenda which is full of socialist policies. E.g. universal healthcare, free education.Yes fascism has already won, we’re at the tip of a trend that started in the 80s. Well actually earlier but the 80s present a recognizable acceleration point. We (not just the US) need to reverse the trend, not change how steep it is for a time.
And yet they don’t vote for politicians who support these things. Hypothetical polling does not gauge the realities of voter behavior.
You need to watch Noam Compsky’s manufacturing consent.
It teaches you why government propaganda is legal in the US and how it is used to benefit the rich.
A Nazi sit down at a table with 10 others, and nobody leaves. How many Nazis are now sat at the table?
The Democrats should whip their members harder instead of giving members ‘outs’ that makes the party as whole look uncommitted - Pelosi managed to do it for years, even with those ‘pesky progressives’.
Use the billion dollars of DNC leverage and lean on them - just like Elon’s unlimited money has openly threatened to primary anyone “disloyal” on the right.
Your definition of sitting at the table is “being in the same building.”
Hardly. How about letting ‘moderate’ reactionaries stay in your club?
Manchin wasn’t ejected from the caucus despite his numerous blocking votes and hostage holding, but they did cut off party fund disbursements . Never kicked out of the party, despite him leaning into Trump.
Sinema wasn’t ejected, but they did cut her off party funds after 2019. But never threw her out of the party either.
First of all, if you consider Manchin and Sinema to be fascists, that’s your issue.
Second of all, they didn’t give them the boot because that would cost them control of the Senate, which, however, tenuous, still matters.
Manchin glazing Trump at his 2024 inauguration speaks words, even without his problematic voting record on immigration, the border wall, or routinely blocking the Democratic agenda - to me runs beyond the ‘sensible silent majority’ centrism tropes, and veers to bedfellows of fascism: