Feddit post in support of zionism
Hi.
In the past few days, discontent regarding mod decisions in this community has been brewing, particularly when it comes to comments on Palestine, Israel, and Israeli politics and actions. There are also misunderstandings regarding mod intention and German law. We hope to clear that up with this post.
While the servers of feddit.org are in Austria, most of the mods of this community as well as admins of this server live in Germany. Speaking of, our server admins have also posted a write-up on the same topic.
And with that, let’s go:
In Germany, antisemitism is specifically sanctioned in German criminal law, both for speech and as a motivation for other criminal behavior. In addition, Germany seeks to protect the Jewish state of Israel (the so-called “Reason of State” introduced in 2008) and thus verges toward protecting Zionism as well. Certain criticism of Israel/Israelis is also categorized as “Israel-related antisemitism”.
Since criminal law is involved, enforcement can mean things like police raids and device confiscations. After such police action, it does not really matter if it was appropriate or if cases are dropped or never charged: The damage is done. All told, it’s not that fun.
There is also no point in engaging in discussions about the veracity of statements that could get us into legal trouble. In addition, we believe that you can express most opinions without breaking rules.
Another post about they are totally not Zionazis
Hello all,
in the last few days there have been some accusations against the moderators of !europe@feddit.org as well as against our admin team of being Nazis or Zionists, mainly because of the way of dealing with criticism of Israel.
We explicitly reject these accusations and will not tolerate such accusations. In particular, people who accuse others in this way without any concrete objective reason are not welcome on feddit.org. This is already covered by our rule of respectful interaction.
First of all, we would like to remind you, that the use of feddit.org must be compliant with the rights and regulations of the DACH region. This is explicitly mentioned in our instance rules, and includes Germany (D), Austria (A) and Switzerland (CH). The infrastructure of feddit.org is maintaind by the Fediverse Foundation, a non-profit association in Austria. Our Admin team, which takes care of the instance wide moderation, organization and supporting infrastructure operations, is based in Germany. Since we primarily target the German speaking coutries, we also try to comply with laws and regulations of Switzerland.
Even if we do not have to actively search for violations of the law, it is necessary to intervene after becoming aware of them. This includes, for example when moderators or admins receive messages about posts or comments, but also when such content is discovered by chance when browsing Lemmy.
In this instance, we fully support the moderators of !europe@feddit.org to potentially remove too much rather than too little in case of legal uncertainties.
One of the triggers for the current debate is this post, which followed the removal of a comment comparing National Socialism with the current situation in Israel, which can be considered a trivialization of National Socialism. Such statements can, among other things, lead to imprisonment. Among other things, the post claimed that the removal had a Zionist motive, an accusation that should always be supported by appropriate evidence and prior to which it should be ruled out that there are alternative explanations.
We will not be removing every comment that goes even remotely in this direction, but we reserve the right to permanently ban users from feddit.org who make unfounded accusations, such as labeling our instance, admins, moderators, or other users as Nazis or Zionists, without substantial supporting arguments. This is especially the case when this is recurring behavior and not an isolated incident.
This includes content such as this post by @Deceptichum@quokk.au, who was banned from our instance shortly before that post due to multiple incitements of violence and terrorism. This person also seems to be the admin of the instance quokk.au, or at least to have good relations to the admin, since we received a censure on Fediseer from quokk.au around the same time, in which we are being accused of being Zionists and Nazis, and @Deceptichum@quokk.au has suggested to defederate quokk.au from us (archive).
If this censure by quokk.au is not withdrawn in a timely manner, we will defederate quokk.au from our side for these unsubstantiated and untrue accusations. quokk.au is a relatively small instance with only a few local users, which tried to build an alternative news community that is not on one of the “big” instances. Unfortunately, this community also seems to be a poor alternative if this is how their admin typically acts.
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Germans really got given the opportunity to show they’d learnt from their ancestors mistakes and decided to go with “just following orders” again, huh?
Germany doesn’t ban Nazi symbology as an anti Nazi measure, they banned Nazi symbology because they were afraid that peoples would notice that they never fully denazify.
People think cancel culture is real. Try being pro-palestinian in that country. I had anarchists tell that boycotting israhell is literally holocaust 2.0
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Name checks out
we would like to remind you, that the use of feddit.org must be compliant with the rights and regulations of the DACH region
More like the DACHAU region
Germany was never denazified
The German right-wing white supremacist instance engaging in censorship for the benefit of genocide loving zionazis???
What a shock, I can’t believe Germans of all people would become racist cowards who hide behind state decrees, truly no historical precedent
I cannot be, they ban anyone who uses the name nazi… but if you call it something else … like an alternitive for germany, then its TOTALY diffrent
Its only genocide if it looks like 1940s germany, well except when its israehellis doing it then its reverse genocide which is good again.
Germany and uniting the left in sheer hatred and disgust. Name a better duo.
Entirely unsurprising and deeply unserious. The price to humanity for the West never de-Nazifying has been immense.
But have you considered that the Nazis where anti commie. and we cannot let the dirty commies win?
Your joke is less funny knowing people actually believe this…
If Israel were founded in Germany after ww2, these same pro-Israel types would be trying to enact the second Holocaust
That was never an option because it goes against the ideology of zionism.
they know their hosting other instances content as well and would be liable for that? Tempted to scare them into defedding everyone
You’re telling me you can set up and maintain a federated Lemmy instance, but you just can’t figure out how a VPN and hosting things outside the Fourth Reich works?
Fuck off, fascists. The mask has already slipped—drop the act.
I’m not reading all that lol
instead I’ll just repost the timeless Michael Brooks response, “it’s not a complex issue,” where he switches the roles of Israelis and Palestinians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62I61kBahNY&t=260s
figure it out, feddit
As a side note, I didn’t know Brooks was Jewish for the longest time. So when he’d make fun of Sam Seder for being Jewish and Sam would get visibly flustered, I was like “Holy shit lmao what does Brooks have on Sam that he gets away with this? Is he Sam’s illegitimate nephew? Are the snuff tapes actually real?”
Nope! The majority of the Majority Report staff happened to be Jewish (Jaime Peck is, too).
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
The fun part is that it could genuinely lead to trouble with the cops. This country is one of the west’s most conservative societies, in the sense that the status quo is holy (and very popular among a large % of heavily moralistic and annoying people) and heavily enforced.