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Toddler: Smirks in the general direction of incel because funny noise from somewhere
Incel: I have been gravely wounded
“Oh my fucking god, look at that little bastard’s shit eating grin. He’s mocking you and your virginity”
LOGIC [EASY: SUCCESS]: "That’s literally a two year old. He doesn’t know what a virginity * is *. It’s debatable that he’s even looking at you right now
ELECTROCHEMISTRY [TRIVIAL: FAILURE]: "Because from birth he knows that he’s a chad who will slay more pussy than your incel ass ever will
ENDURANCE [NORMAL: FAILURE] Your knees are giving out from underneath you, it’s becoming difficult to stay standing- [Simply embrace your place in life as someone laying on the floor in the Kroger produce department]
- “FUCK YOU, CHAD. I CAN SLAY PUSSY HARDER THAN YOU EVER WILL”
- COMPOSURE - FORMIDABLE (17%): Try and stay standing and collected without looking insane
I choose 3
No, it’s too much to bear. The fact that a literal toddler is getting more of Stacy’s attention than you is all you can think about. It prioritizes standing, even. Your knees give out while your lips attempt to sputter something blasé. You sink beneath the display of sweet potatoes
- 1 HEALTH
A woman looking at tomatoes notices this and concernedly rushes to your side
“Excuse me? Sir, are you okay?” - OH MY FUCKING GOD, ANOTHER WOMAN IS HERE TO MOCK YOU AND YOUR MISERABLE JAWLINE PRONUNCIATION. SHE CAN SEE YOUR FAILURES AS A MAN AND IS HERE TO MOCK YOU FOR THEM
AUTHORITY [EASY:SUCCESS]: You’ve already suffered enough humiliation for today, you can’t let this femoid humiliate you further. Let her have it. Tell her who is in control
Toddler:tee hee
incel::
Sucking on titties openly in public while watching seething smelly passersby
I really don’t get incels.
You’re chuds, how are you failing to socialize in the west?
Equal parts unrealistic expectations in wanting a companion coupled with being addicted to being in despair and being an evil person.
Unwilling or unable to even perform the appearance of “normal guy” that gets you looked at with a blind eye
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While it is not simply true that every time you fight, you win, it is simply true that every time you don’t fight, you lose. If one of these people with their terribe beliefs and vibes is unwilling to even try and pretend to be less hostile than they are, for at least as long as it takes to have a conversation with someone, it wouldn’t make sense for them to expect positive results from that.
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So you’re saying hexbear should be brigading these incel forums with leftist, inclusive ideology to try to turn some people off their path of isolation and despair? It’s not the worst idea I’ve heard
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I’ve not written anywhere that incel ideology is right or that it does good to people. It clearly does not. What I am saying is that incels are wrong and you and a lot of people on this website are wrong too when they talk about dating and love and relationships.
Like, obviously one should work though their negative feelings in the first place. But there are a terrifiying number of people who don’t do that, who still manage to achieve at least shallow relationships by concealing their shit and playing a part. Is that approach to relationships fucked up, socially and psychologically corrosive, and a sign of a more widespread social sickness? Absofuckinlutely. But (and again, we’re being amoral here) is it a marginally more effective individual approach to relationships than unconcealed hostility? Scoreboard says Also Yes.
I cannot even begin to say what a disgusting and untenable position this is. I have a thousand times more sympathy with an incel who cannot hide his misogyny and doesn’t get what he wants than with a man who can hide his misogyny to get his dick wet and just gets what he wants. I’d much rather the misogynist does not “play a part” in social reproduction. The incel does much less harm to the world than the regular misogynist does.
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Okay, all these things apply to my life and I had the option to not be an incel. No need to play defense for incels this hard.
Actually, I was going to save it, but no, we’ve already had this struggle session on the site where it was made clear that this level of defense for incels makes femme users uncomfortable. Socializing doesn’t come easy to me, all you did were list excuses for not developing social skills though. I used to be friends with people who were incels IRL, and they became that way because they got coddled by the men in their life into thinking it was okay to not develop socially and “uWu they’re mentally ill it’s not their fault” when it very much is. There is no excuse for viewing women as subhuman because you have so little social skills that you can’t find someone else as socially inept as you and build a relationship from there.
This is on the same level as “uWu it wasn’t Hitler’s fault, he was just a product of his environment”. That’s a true statement, he was a product of his environment, doesn’t make him any less deserving of our ridicule.
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I think you’re making a very dangerous conflation here. Yes, there are lazy assholes on the board who like punching down at miserable mentally ill people because ultimately the board is full of shitty people to only a slightly lesser degree than most places, and they fucking love being given permission to designate someone as subhuman if that designated subhuman doesn’t have a visible identity they can whip out to say they’re one of the good guys because they’re also socially minoritized. This leads to attacking a lot of mentally ill people, but woke.
However
“Incel” does not mean miserable loner with mental illness. There are a lot of miserable loners with mental illness who are not incels, and I know that because I’m one of them and have spent many years as one, but I’ve never called myself an “incel,” I don’t spend my time on internet boards with nazis ranting about why women should be slaves, as I said before, there’s a difference between having a rough time with being mentally ill and unloved and making a political project of hating women and seeking their terror and subjugation.
While it is totally within your capability to stop making this conflation, I don’t think it started with you nearly as much as it started with people masking their antisocial attitude towards, uh, let’s call them sad virgins by couching it in terms of rightful criticism of the politically heinous project of incels, the way that some “socialists” love going “white women be like” because they want to say “women be like.” They just phrase it differently to make their disgusting attitudes palatable to certain other self-styled progressives. My guess (I apologize for using italics to much here) is that you at least intuited this pattern of behavior but just drew a poor conclusion from it by letting those “fake woke” assholes convince you that you and incels have common cause when that could not be farther from the truth.
[In reference to some of your other comments] I’ve known guys like you who let the not getting laid thing develop into an obsession and have had such an obsession myself a long time ago. I can’t really help you with that, I couldn’t help the other guys and I myself only really understood how ridiculous that attitude is after I spent some time in a relationship, so I didn’t really need to outgrow it. I’m lonely again now and have been for years, but my experience tells me that fucking wouldn’t somehow make me whole and it’s not worth obsessing over. I can’t transmit that to you, so basically there’s just the drop in the bucket as my anecdotal evidence.
I think very few people on this board are going to engage with you constructively on this, so if their being gross is intolerable to you, it’s probably not good to keep complaining to them because you’re just an other to them. Some people can engage on this and I see one or two have though (e.g. the person who explained the significance of the fact that most people don’t like ER).
Edit: I should say that there’s also a lot of rightful incel-bashing that doesn’t make the conflation that I mentioned, it’s just that it can be misconstrued that way if you have already bought into “incel” being a codeword for “miserable loner with mental illness”.
I’ve known guys like you who let the not getting laid thing develop into an obsession and have had such an obsession myself a long time ago. I can’t really help you with that, I couldn’t help the other guys and I myself only really understood how ridiculous that attitude is after I spent some time in a relationship, so I didn’t really need to outgrow it. I’m lonely again now and have been for years, but my experience tells me that fucking wouldn’t somehow make me whole and it’s not worth obsessing over. I can’t transmit that to you, so basically there’s just the drop in the bucket as my anecdotal evidence.
So you were in a relationship? Some person told you “I love you” and no matter how short it was for a single faction of your existence you were loved and desired by somebody? Somebody told you “I want to share my life (however brief) with you?” That’s all I want, just give me a single second of that and I’ll never complain again. It’s not about getting laid, it’s about being desired. And being desired is a basic normal human need and when that need is not met and has never been met you’ll lose your mind.
That’s why you grew out of it when you had a relationship.
Sorry for having a mental illness, sorry for being stupid, sorry for being socially inept, sorry for not being a productive worker sorry for not being normal sorry for being born to poor parents who beat me, sorry for not rising above my class, sorry for being not normal, sorry for being such a loser, do I now deserve love???
It’s not shaming them for not performing patriarchal masculinity, it’s shaming them for hating women. You are being disingenuous if you think that’s all we hate incels for.
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cool on you for getting help for your schizophrenia im just a weaker person who deserves to die i guess
So are you an incel?
I have never kissed a woman, I have never slept with a woman, even though i have craved companionship all my life. I feel lonely every time I go to sleep and every time I wake up. I feel ashamed for this and feel like there’s something deeply personally wrong with me. My favorite movies are romance movies.
there was a woman who had interest in me ten years ago since then nothing even at my most social times i have many friends but most have moved away
I had a dream where I kissed a woman a few days back oh boy was that fun I wish I had never woken up
It was a dumb question, but you’re failing to answer it because none of this explains why they are chuds if they “don’t want to be.” I’m an isolated, mentally ill loser who fell through the cracks, but I’d sooner die than join the incels.
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I’m not talking about them being or not being communists, and don’t give me the “Masses, Elites, and Rebels” lecture. There are lots of other “slipped through the cracks” losers out there who aren’t incels, so many that it feels like our society is more crack than surface, and we can quip about there being commonality between incel ideology and liberal ideology, but most of those losers still aren’t incels, they still don’t make a political project of being hostile to women or anything like that.
Part of that is, if you care about words having meanings, most people aren’t chuds, and even among men it’s at least contested enough that it’s not “the basic mode of living” in most social contexts. As much as we can draw cute connections, the only time you see someone on CNN saying we should repeal the 19th Amendment is if they are wheeling out some internet crank, and the people on CSPAN who do believe it mostly keep it to themselves.
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The difference is that these people don’t make hating women their personalities and political projects. These 4chan type misogynists are clearly having a different impact on young men than mainstream misogyny. Chris Brown beats women, but he wouldn’t celebrate someone like Elliot Rodgers trying to go on a killing spree of women. Incels are developing into terrorism and leaking into mainstream misogyny.
A lot of these people got radicalized into being incels by 4chan, a place where there are communists, albeit reactionary ones, but they had exposure to a lot of the same things that I did and still turned out that way.
Shit, the incel I knew personally even came out as a trans woman for a short amount of time. These people aren’t stupid, they understand they have some level of agency over their life, but it’s because of dipshits like you giving them the pass to say they have no agency over their life they can pretend they don’t.
capitalism goes rampant every single day, worsening conditions for everybody, severing all human connections, but yeah just SELF IMPROVE YOURSELF OUT OF IT JUST GO OUT INTO THE NONEXISTANT SOCIAL FABRIC
I JUST BIT MY HAND TILL IT BLED
Okay, I’m a schizophrenic alcoholic, I have all the excuses in the world to self isolate and hate people. But even when I was drinking up to a gallon of vodka a day, I still had the option of going to meetings, going to therapy, getting on psych meds, being friends with my coworkers, ect. Acting like there’s “NOTHING WE CAN DO CAPITALISM RUINED EVERYTHING” is the self defeatist mindset that made me an alcoholic. So your speech is stupid and causing psychic damage to everybody that reads it.
Also to counter you mentioning me getting therapy and other such help is “privilege” I got that for free. There are still programs to get help for free, you just have to actually seek them. They still suck and are clearly held back by capitalism, but they exist. There is no excuse not to work on being a better person for your community and those around you other than not giving a fuck. I learned that from the immigrants I work with in kitchens that have 3 full time jobs and families they still take care of and spend time with.
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LV99_BixNood
And also a racist too, but then again that’s the freebie on the incel bingo card.
Can you explain this dogwhistle to those of us not in the know so we can recognize it in the future?
There’s an old A Wyatt Mann cartoon with an incredibly racist (obviously, given the author) depiction of a black dude saying gibberish into his cell phone (the words “bix nood” being part of this gibberish), and it became a meme.
it’s from some racist cartoon series, in this case they were doing a caricature of African-American Vernacular English
This is probably the least problematic page explaining this, but it’s a series of white supremacist cartoons that became 4chan memes - huge CW racism, white supremacy, SA, antisemitism, and probably a dozen other things: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/a-wyatt-mann
In short, it’s from an extremely racist cartoon with a panel of a racist chariacture of a black person talking “gibberish”.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bix_nood
From a comic by the cartoonist A. Wyatt Mann, which depicts a black man speaking in gibberish. It was later reuploaded by users of the 4chan image board /b/. It has no known discernible etymological root.
Not going to link the original comic since it’s wildly racist. But the same guy who drew the happy merchant meme drew this cartoon depicting a black woman badly.
Genuinely sorry you even know something this specific and unhinged comrade.
Yeah I had a bad time in my life.
Libyan soldier in 1987:
Toddlers are incredibly Chad because they don’t give a fuck what anyone thinks about them and do whatever it takes to get what they want
I love their ruthlessness. They just cut right through the bullshit.
Found his alt
Lol now I’m curious what a toddler could have possibly said to him
And then the baby looked at me and I perished on the spot
Waaaaaaaaaaat?
oh god my sides are gone tooI found YouTube links in your comment. Here are links to the same videos on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Link 1:
Link 2:
This could be an inversion of a clickbait video title.
“Chad toddler OBLITERATES incel at the supermarket”
shits pants
There’s this weird through line with incel posts, where every once in a while you’ll see one of them expressing sexual envy about a very young child
I think because they are desperate for someone to come and fix their life for them, without needing to actually do anything themselves, like a toddler. And then that feeling of supreme laziness gets mixed up with sexual pathology and here we are.
