I went and double checked community info, yet I can’t understand why mine was removed. Probably some German moderator seeing antisemitic content everywhere 🤷♂️
Fwiw, yours was the one I was least sure about removing. You’re right, there are a lot of clearly civilian victims. The way you worded it seemed a bit too inviting for another rage thread though.
Your comment was literally just “What is it with Germans and genocide?” Besides the one interpretation you suggest, there are a lot of other possibilities.
In any case, if a thread had started from your comment, do you think it could have been a productive one?
E.g. “It must be a genetic thing” or “Gee, they just have a genocidal culture” or …
The way you phrased it also suggests the direction the discussion will go: It’s not going to be about genocides, it’s going to be anti-German, although genocides are unfortunately fairly common among humans. (Of course, “genocide” is a somewhat mushy politically-applied term as well which doesn’t help.)
I’d understand the thread as author intended. Just my 5 cents. And honestly, it’s time to talk openly about it, even though the thread could diverge - in that case, weed the offensive comments, not censor beforehand.
I will remove my comments anyway. I don’t agree with your moderation policy, so I don’t comment here as frequently as before, and remove most of my comments after some day as a protest.
As to your criticism of overmoderating: I am not removing every off-topic discussion either. What I am sometimes doing is removing comments that just say “Good.” or “Bad.”, etc., especially if it’s the third such comment under that particular post. I don’t find these helpful. I am open to no longer doing that.
As to posts from you that I removed:
There was a meme early on — which we ultimately decided is content better suited for !YUROP, the rule was made in response to your meme, I think. That was really unfortunate.
You also posted a video of right-wing ultras shouting “Palestine” — which I removed I wasn’t sure what message to take from it, as it was basically uncommented. I also wouldn’t want to moderate in a community of uncheckable raw footage where I don’t know whether it is manipulated. — Quite honestly, I don’t know what mods in war-related communities like the various versions of !Ukraine do.
I really appreciate a mod that takes the time to discuss specifics of removed content.
I think the same way on removing lazy comments like ‘Good’ or ‘Germany evil’.
On the other hand I saw in the modlog a reason to remove being ‘Trolling’. The specific comment ironically suggested Germany enjoys producing genocide. The comment could have been more elaborated, but I think the irony is more important than the truthness of the statement.
If we are not allowed to confront genocide with even sarcasm, what else can we do besides crying?
That’s exactly what I call overmoderation. The upvote-downvote system should deal with that.
Banning nazis, and what you did in this comment section was correct, and I think that’s what mods should do. But deleting random things you call noise and deleting comments which are actually related to the topic, but not in the format you want (not in English or not text but images) will kill this community on the long run.
So many removed comments…
I went and double checked community info, yet I can’t understand why mine was removed. Probably some German moderator seeing antisemitic content everywhere 🤷♂️
Fwiw, yours was the one I was least sure about removing. You’re right, there are a lot of clearly civilian victims. The way you worded it seemed a bit too inviting for another rage thread though.
My comment was simply pointing out how Germany’s been involved in genocide at least twice in modern history.
I’d appreciate if someone would challenge me with a sound argument rather than censoring me.
Your comment was literally just “What is it with Germans and genocide?” Besides the one interpretation you suggest, there are a lot of other possibilities.
In any case, if a thread had started from your comment, do you think it could have been a productive one?
Okay, let’s just say I’m that dense. How else would you interpret my comment? How unproductive would the thread be?
E.g. “It must be a genetic thing” or “Gee, they just have a genocidal culture” or …
The way you phrased it also suggests the direction the discussion will go: It’s not going to be about genocides, it’s going to be anti-German, although genocides are unfortunately fairly common among humans. (Of course, “genocide” is a somewhat mushy politically-applied term as well which doesn’t help.)
I’d understand the thread as author intended. Just my 5 cents. And honestly, it’s time to talk openly about it, even though the thread could diverge - in that case, weed the offensive comments, not censor beforehand.
Lemme guess…
You’re German, and you’re very proud of your country.
I get that. It’s good to be proud of your country, but it’s also good to be open to other point of views.
I’m German, that much is correct.
Hi, ok, while I disagree, thanks for letting me know. Perhaps we need some rage to end the horrors going on in Middle east…
This community is overmoderated, they frequently remove slightly offtopic comments. You can see this in the modlog.
But in this case there were some really extreme comments calling for violence.
I will report your comment because it’s also noise, and they will remove it I’m sure.
Now I won’t do it. 🐧
I will remove my comments anyway. I don’t agree with your moderation policy, so I don’t comment here as frequently as before, and remove most of my comments after some day as a protest.
While I can’t stop you, please do not do that.
As to your criticism of overmoderating: I am not removing every off-topic discussion either. What I am sometimes doing is removing comments that just say “Good.” or “Bad.”, etc., especially if it’s the third such comment under that particular post. I don’t find these helpful. I am open to no longer doing that.
As to posts from you that I removed:
I really appreciate a mod that takes the time to discuss specifics of removed content. I think the same way on removing lazy comments like ‘Good’ or ‘Germany evil’.
On the other hand I saw in the modlog a reason to remove being ‘Trolling’. The specific comment ironically suggested Germany enjoys producing genocide. The comment could have been more elaborated, but I think the irony is more important than the truthness of the statement.
If we are not allowed to confront genocide with even sarcasm, what else can we do besides crying?
That’s exactly what I call overmoderation. The upvote-downvote system should deal with that.
Banning nazis, and what you did in this comment section was correct, and I think that’s what mods should do. But deleting random things you call noise and deleting comments which are actually related to the topic, but not in the format you want (not in English or not text but images) will kill this community on the long run.
How do I get to the modlog?
On desktop, sidebar of the community -> Modlog button. This link is on their instance: https://feddit.org/modlog/5765
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It seems the removed comments are from always the same few users …