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Azerbaijani government sources have exclusively confirmed to Euronews on Thursday that a Russian surface-to-air missile caused the Azerbaijan Airlines plane crash in Aktau on Wednesday.
According to the sources, the missile was fired at Flight 8432 during drone air activity above Grozny, and the shrapnel hit the passengers and cabin crew as it exploded next to the aircraft mid-flight.
Government sources have told Euronews that the damaged aircraft was not allowed to land at any Russian airports despite the pilots’ requests for an emergency landing, and it was ordered to fly across the Caspian Sea towards Aktau in Kazakhstan.
According to data, the plane’s GPS navigation systems were jammed throughout the flight path above the sea. (…)
Pretty crazy you can mistake a commercial airliner for a small drone…
Not a mistake, they have the black box from the plane.
Do people not realize that “drone” doesnt simply mean small quad copter? The us military CCA program is a whole suit of drones that are basically air planes? Look at this one… it looks more like a fighter jet than anything else
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kratos_XQ-58_Valkyrie
This is the micro machines version is a fighter jet. And still 1/100th of a commercial airliner.
This one, an Embraer 190AR, 36 m long, was not a hundred times bigger.
Assuming it’s a cylinder (no wings) of 2.5 meter diameter and 36 meters length: 36*(1.25**2)*3.14 = 176.7 m3
The drone looks like 10 meters long and 1.5 meters in diameter: 10*(0.75^2)*3.14 = 17.6 m3
Therefore I stand corrected.
Okay buddycomrade. These aren’t the drones Ukraine is using.
Some of the drones Ukraine is using are converted prop-planes (same style as Cessna 152) and others are old Soviet Union drones that also look like small planes.
Quadcopters are used in and near the frontlines but they don’t have the range to attack far out targets in Russia.
The biggest reason why Russian AA shouldn’t be confusing Ukranian long range drones with airliners is that that the airliners are much larger and fly high (at 30,000 feet +) whilst the drones fly much lower exactly to avoid AA.
Try to do it on a 50 year old Soviet air defence system while drunk.
That shouldn’t be an issue… If you are competent. There need to be multiple levels of incompetence in the hierarchy for this kind of accident to happen.
And there it is.
Just don’t give the conspiracy dipshits in New Jersey any Russian SAM batteries.
Not really, airliners have been confused for much smaller aircraft or missiles multiple times. There have also been plenty of friendly fire incidents where Russia shot down it’s own military planes and even the US shot down it’s own fighter plane a couple of days ago despite certainly more sophisticated and integrated IFF systems.
For that reason Russia should close any airspace it might have to operate air defenses in. Obviously that would look bad for them and they are not going to do it.
Come on, this was not a mistake, incompetence or an accident. Its just the same type of “accident” like people falling out of windows. They want everyone to know that you are not safe from russian agents, without having the official goverment to confirm that it was them, because then it could be considered an act of war.