Like this:
But replace “Hawaii” with your location.
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Make sure my phone was actually on silent, put ear plugs in and go back to sleep. I’m too fucking tired to try and survive anything more.
Ah just dump all my cat’s treats in her bowl and probably go lie down.
Oh! Oh! I have an answer for this. I remember around the time that The Day After aired, one of the local news stations ran a story simulating what would happen to my city were it hit by an ICBM. We lived on the far side of a hill, far enough away from downtown for it to be potentially survivable. I decided that if we got the warning, I’d grab my bike and light out for ground zero. Fuck surviving, I don’t wanna take the chance of being alive but horribly injured, and that aftermath shit just wasn’t worth it.
Oh, so if you ever wonder why Gen X/Xennials are so fucked up, there ya go.
I am “lucky” enough to live within a few miles of a place I’m pretty sure would be a ground zero in an all out nuclear attack. I live in a university town. And the university I attend has a nuclear engineering program along with an accompanying research reactor. In any all-out nuclear exchange, anything related to nuclear technology is at the top of the target list. A facility that trains new nuclear engineers is definitely on the target list. We’ve actually talked about this. If we get this message, our plan is to round up the cats, throw then in the car, grab every mind altering substance we can get our hands on, and go get wasted outside the front gate of the reactor building. We won’t try to break into the building or anything; the alert could always be in error and we don’t need a felony for trying to break into a nuclear facility on our records. But when hydrogen bombs are involved, the front gate of the reactor building is close enough to ground zero to do the job.
Sorry, but there are indeed fates worse than death. For one, we would be unlikely to survive the initial bombing anyway. But most people have this idea that you’ll get vaporized by a bomb. That’s not how these things actually work. If you’re killed in the first hour by the bomb, odds are it will be from being slowly cooked alive in the burning collapsed remnants of your own home. And sure, we could drive out into the country, but that would only ensure that we would die slowly from fallout induced radiation sickness, slow starvation after the complete collapse of all supply chains, or worse.
Trust me. If that alert comes, the ones close enough to ground zero to be atomized will be the lucky ones. This is something that you do not want to survive. I would encourage anyone that if they ever get that alert, to try to travel as close to whatever you think is your most likely ground zero as possible. You’ll be doing yourself and your loved ones a favor. Unless you’re already an off-grid survivalist type living in a self-sufficient compound way outside of any blast or fallout zone, all you’re doing by escaping the blasts is stretching out your own misery. Do you and yours a favor by making it quick and painless.
On another note, Happy New Year!
You sound a lot like Dr. Falken from Wargames.
I’ve planned ahead. We’re just three miles from a primary target. A millisecond of brilliant light and we’re vaporized. Much more fortunate than millions who wander sightless through the smoldering aftermath.
I mean, it’s not an irrational stance. Better to thoughtfully and rationally consider it and plan accordingly.
Really, it’s another manifestation of that whole, “which would your rather meet alone in the woods, a lone man or a lone bear.” A lot of guys simply couldn’t understand why most women would take the bear. But the worst the bear is going to do is eat you. And there are many fates worse than death.
Oh, I wasn’t meaning to suggest you were wrong. I’ve actually feel that Falken’s statement there makes perfect sense. Falken only goes wrong when he refuses to act to stop WW III on the assumption that since it’s going to happen eventually, why not now?
Why do the cats get put in the car? Are you bringing them with you and driving to the gates of the reactor to get high, or?
I mean, I’m not going to leave the cats to die in a collapsing burning house either. If I think being vaporized is the best possible fate for myself, why would I deny that mercy to my cats? And yes, in case it’s not clear, we’re driving to the reactor gates, with the cats in the car. They’re joining us for the blast. They’re going with us.
The plan is: grab cats and mind altering substances -> load up car -> drive to reactor ->park in front of gates -> get out of our minds, pet the cats tell bombs fall.
Ah, that makes more sense. Apologies for the confusion, I don’t live in a car centred place.
Meh. I can still doom scroll in that time. Best use of my time I tell you.
Double it and give it to the next person
I’d be setting off the pair of sirens I own, then awaiting the inevitable. Thankfully I live in an area where the chance of being vaporized is quite high.
Seek immediate shelter, probably. And wonder why someone would send a ballistic missile to New Hampshire.
Immediately get in my car and drive like a bat out of hell out of my city. It’s small but it’s for sure a nuclear target
Same but towards the blast. I’ve seen Threads, I ain’t hanging around for that shit.
tons of people will try the same thing. Roads will be grid locked in minutes. Better to try finding shelter underground
I’m gunna be running people off the road and driving through people’s yards
This is how this situation was depicted in a made for TV movie on NBC. https://youtu.be/n28NoLNarNs
Not realistic. It supposedly 1983 but they refer to USSR as Russia. Dissolution wasn’t until 1991. Literally unwatchable.
The way they depict the almost autonomous responses of those in charges of firing the nukes is unnerving.
If you’re my family, sleep through it while I frantically close windows because I didn’t know what else to do. Most Hawaii homes have no basements usually, so its kind of just fucked
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opening some of the jails.
they are far enough away from any reasonable target to be safe, and with a few motivated friends, I might be able to pull a few bank jobs.
I assume it’s a mistake because I live in a small town that would never be a target.
We were in this scenario last year, when NK launched a missile towards Hokkaido, and we were on the west coast, just next to a nuclear reactor.
After getting the altert, we put on clothes, went downstairs to the sturdiest room, stuck on the TV to the NHK news, and waited. The missle plopped into the ocean off the coast, and we had tempura for lunch.
There’s really nothing you can do in these situations but stay calm and do the small, sensible things.
Modern nuclear reactors won’t meltdown if shot, just turn off so only gonna be more dangerous if they specifically target electricity infrastructure
Modern nuclear reactors won’t meltdown if shot
we hope. never having tested nearby strikes, there’s no way to know how resilient to catastrophe these things are, and even when over-engineered with an eye on safety in the worst conditions, fukushima illustrates that everything can go wrong in a cascade and still render them unsafe.
honestly, coastal nuclear power stations like diablo canyon and fukushima are going to be interacting with larger and more violent storms in the future, and tsunamis etc., perhaps there are better places for them.
Not really, modern Thorium reactors simply can’t meltdown, it’s no safety, simply not possible they are the Future
Modern thorium reactors don’t exist on the power grid.
For now
it may be physically impossible but until we test them with catastrophic conditions we won’t know. that said, their long history of fail-safe fail states and the extremely reduced physical constraints (lower pressure, lower temps, lower amounts of fissile material, lower enrichment, etc.,) make me think you’re right, but it’s gonna be hard to prove because we’re having such difficulty getting the larger industry to test the shit much less deploy it in any reasonable amount of time.
Not to make anyone nervous, but dropping a fuckass big missile on a pile of very secure and safe nuclear material will still scatter that material in a wide area, and wind will make it worse.
But no, making a modern nuclear suffer a meltdown is basically impossible
Sure, but a nuclear power plant could be a potential target. The nuclear warhead is the concern.
If someone drops a nuke I think you will have bigger problems than the lack of electricity
That’s exactly what I’m saying… If you live near a nuclear power plant, you’re a potential target. Cause the bomb doesn’t destroy the plant, it destroys the city it’s in and several towns around it.
The plant is a target because hitting the plant makes the power go out for the whole region, but your problem is the warhead. Meltdowns don’t factor in at any point.
If they are built and maintained correctly. And meltdown isn’t the only problem that could occur.
I don’t have much faith in a corrupt, self-regulated industry, with strong yakuza ties, to do things 100% the correct way, especially given everything we know about the industry post 2011. Knowing how much local political power the company has, I know they could literally get away with murder, as no politician or police would want to be on their bad side.
Don’t get me wrong, the missile was still the biggest threat, but I do believe the power plant isn’t necessarily safe. An engineering and/or scientific understanding of a modern power plant doesn’t mean shit if you don’t consider the political and capitalist systems the that underpin their construction and maintenance.
Could you recommend any reading about the Yakuza involvement in the industry? Super fascinating but it’s the first I’ve heard if it
Thanks
For English sources probably the best book is Tokyo Noir by Jake Adelstein
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It’s okay to leave the space in when it’s two words.
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