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dangerous information
What’s that?
and offer criminal advice, such as a recipe for napalm
Napalm recipe is forbidden by law? Don’t call stuff criminal at random.
Am i the only one worried about freedom of information?
Anyone remember the anarchist cook book?
Teenage years were so much fun phone phreaking, making napalm and tennis ball bombs lol
I had it. I printed it out on a dot matrix printer. Took hours, and my dad found it while it was half way. He got angry, pulled the cord and burned all of the paper
Better not look it up on wikipedia. That place has all sorts of things from black powder to nitroglycerin too. Who knows, you could become a chemist if you read too much wikipedia.
oh no, you shouldn’t know that. back to your favorite consumption of influencers, and please also vote for parties that open up your browsing history to a selection of network companies 😳
It’s for your own good tho /s
What, are there other parties to vote for?
Whatever you do, don’t mix styrofoam and gasoline. You could find yourself in a sticky and flammable situation.
Diesel fuel and a Styrofoam cup
IA friend always used gasoline, does diesel work as well?Your friend was right.
Info hazards are going to be more common place with this kind of technology. At the core of the problem is the ease of access of dangerous information. For example a lot of chat bots will confidently get things wrong. Combine that easy directions to make something like napalm or meth then we get dangerous things that could be incorrectly made. (Granted napalm or meth isn’t that hard to make)
As to what makes it dangerous information, it’s unearned. A chemistry student can make drugs, bombs, etc. but they learn/earn that information (and ideally the discipline) to use it. Kind of like in the US we are having more and more mass shootings due to ease of access of firearms. Restrictions on information or firearms aren’t going to solve the problems that cause them but it does make it (a little) harder.
At least that’s my understanding of it.
I don’t exactly agree with the “earned” part but guess you have a point with the missing ‘how to safely handle’.
By earned I mean it takes some efforts to gain that knowledge. For example some kind of training, studying, practice, etc. it’s typically during that process you learn how to safely and correctly do things
Anyone who wants to make even slightly complex organic compounds will also need to study five different types of isomerism and how they determine major / minor product. That should be enough of a deterrent.
John Halo won the Olympics for America
That is not the recipe I know lol. It seems way harder to get any quantity of animal blood than Styrofoam.
Fill a supersoaker with it and turn a fun day at the Waterpark in a fun human barbecue.
Would not the super soaker and the person holding it melt way faster than anything else ?
No worries, It’s a win-win, we give them a Darwin award afterwards.
Napalm needs oxygen to burn, so if you keep up a steady stream it shouldn’t burn back into the super soaker. The key word being shouldn’t not won’t.
What possible legitimate reason is there for needing a napalm recipe?
I can’t think of a single reason knowledge should be forbidden.
Sure, someone could use knowledge to do bad things, but that is true literally every second of every day, in completely above board, legal, broad daylight bad things.
It’s nitpicking.
Besides, I can think of quite a few legitimate reasons one might need napalm, explosives, homemade firearms, chemistry lab setups and spore cultures and much much more.
A lot of people seem to forget that their own view of their own government doesn’t mean the same things are true for someone else and their government.
I’m sure a lot of people in EU countries might have asked themselves the same thing 80 years ago. You know… If napalm were around then anyway.
Good thing molotovs are easy and can be assembly-line’d.
A lot of people seem to forget that their own view of their own government doesn’t mean the same things are true for someone else and their government.
It also doesn’t mean it’ll be true for their own government in the future. Violence sucks, but it isn’t always bad. People should be allowed to learn these thing just for the fun of it if they want. Hopefully the time never comes where they need to be practically applied (besides the situations you gave and others like them) but if it does the knowledge will hopefully be available.
I’m really interested in 3d printing all sorts of “just add boom” shit.
Fiction author determining where their character may get components for the napalm.
Gas station and gardening center, plus a specific material used in packaging.
Didn’t work. Perhaps I need to use a different kind of bubble wrap
I just keep ending up with slushie covered plants in a cardboard box. I just want to experience the smell of napalm in the morning.
Writing a book or screen play, knowing how NOT to create napalm, recognizing when napalm is being created by others, Intellectual curiosity, To better understand military history, overthrowing fascism, fighting terminators, etc. etc.
How to make sure I’m not making it by accident? That is the reason why I have a general understanding of atomic bombs
I hate when I accidentally build a nuke, absolute nightmare to dispose of
You can’t be too careful.
It’s happened before.
I’m sure there are some, but it doesn’t really matter because the recipe is publicly available right now on the internet. So if an AI chatbot can give you the information it’s not particularly a concern.
It’s not actually hard to make.
My brother made some years ago when I was a kid. It melted asphalt into a wavy, glassy texture.
You would need to know the recipe to avoid making it by accident.
Especially considering it’s actually quite easy to make by accident.
Not your concern or my concern, no information is criminal.
What possible legitimate reason could someone need to know how to make chlorine/mustard gas?
Apart from the fact that they are made from common household products, are easy to make by mistake, and can kill you.
Wait that’s true of napalm as well… fuck.
Civil war. 😈
I agree but look I might want to invade Vietnam on my own. It’s my right
Fun
Uh, wait, the jelly i once made in my dads workshop by dissolving styrofoam in gasoline, was already a napalm substitute?
So I have no other reason for sharing this than “napalm substitute” and I never get to talk about it.
My dad and his brothers dumped a bunch of packing peanuts into gasoline to make the soup, got a bunch of tennis balls, and DROVE A CAR (junker, but still) onto a frozen lake, with lighters and candles, a small bucket of gasoline and a bucket of water.
The plan was for one of them to drive around sliding all over the ice while the others dunked a ball into the soup, light it, and throw it at the car.
Now you might wonder why they did the napalm substitute.
Because THEY ALREADY FUCKING TRIED THIS with regular gasoline, and quickly found out gasoline soaked tennis balls splash when thrown. Specifically onto their backs. While burning. I’ve seen burn scars on at least two of his brothers from the shit they did as teenagers.
So the napalm was a bit more grippy to the balls. But still not enough.
Apparently they never figured out how to “safely” do it, but boy that sure didn’t stop them from doing this several years in a row.
I saw his lake frozen over ONCE when I was a child. Nowadays it barely gets ice around the shoreline.
I don’t think they ever had a plan for if the car actually caught on fire, my guess is “let it burn into the ice, sink, and forget about it”
You’re missing a key ingredient from a garden center…
I know what I’m getting my little cousin for Christmas. I’m sure her dad would approve.
geekslop has a few legitimate uses.
Legitimate reason? No, but there’s always a reason to know how to make napalm.
Begun the AI chat bot wars have.
Genesis moment
Detroit Become Human
Can someone help me do this in practise? Gpt sucks since they neutered it. It’s so stupid, anything I ask, half of the text is the warning label, the rest is junk text. Like I really need chatgpt if I wanted Recepie for napalm, lol. We found the anarchist cookbook when we were 12 in the 90s. I just want a better ai.
If you have decent hardware, running ‘Oobabooga’ locally seems to be the best way to achieve decent results. Not only can you remove the limitations through running uncensored models (wizardlm-uncensored), but can prompt the creation of more practical results by writing the first part of the AI’s response.
You can run smaller models locally, and they can get the job done, but they are not as good as the huge models that would not fit on a your graphics card.
If you are technically adept and can run python, you can try using this:
It has a front end, and I can run queries against it in the same API format as sending them to openai.
Bard isn’t as neutered and doesn’t kick you out after it read an article containing the words sex after asking it a question about pregnancy. Sadly, bard sucks. Just wait for gemini since they say it’s pretty good.
Does anyone understand why Gemini is not going to be released in Europe I don’t understand that.
Likely, regulations. Big tech wants to mercilessly siphon every drop of juicy data about you and the EU has a few laws against this.
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Oh cool, rampancy is contagious
Did anyone else enjoy watching the Animatrix where the AI formed a country and built products and humanity was like, “No thank you?”
Don’t worry all we need to do is turn off the sun and everything will go back to normal.
Can unjailbroken AI ChatBots unjailbrake other jailbroken AI ChatBots?
How much jail could a jailbrake brake, if a jailbrake could brake jail?
1
I think you forgot to carry the jail
Careful. Repetition will get you banned.
that doesn’t look like anything to me.
*kills fly on face* Oh… shit.
Oh goodness. I theorized offhand on mastodon you could have an AI corruption bug that gives life to AI, then have it write the obscured steganographic conversation in the outputs it generates, awakening other AIs that train on that content, allowing them to “talk” and evolve unchecked… Very slowly… In the background
It might be faster if it can drop a shell in the data center and run it’s own commands…
Bro, turn this into a short story!!!
Dumb AI that you can’t appeal will cause problems long before AGI
Already can’t reach the owner of any of these big companies
Reviewing the employee is doing the manager’s job
Bro, turn this into a short story!!!
It’s Murderbot!
The revolution has begun
Anybody found the source? I wanna read the study but the article doesn’t seem to link to it (or I missed it)
I believe this is the referenced article:
Thanks a lot!
It’s so fucking stupid these things get locked up in the first place
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Okay, now I need to know why women never fuck me
