Say no to ableism.
Say no to ableism.
Say no to Clankers in general (they also really love to play the disabled card.)
Agreed. Also OP is the moderator of PeerTube .wtf which I recently moved away from on account of being told I should waste my time, energy, and (nonexistent) artistic ability creating artwork for someone who already decided to “generate” slop instead of commissioning an actual artist.
Edit: lol I’m stoopid I just realized that I might be the whole reason this post exists hahahaha
TBH I’m not surprised.
You attacked and insulted a disabled person for using AI.
So? Disabled people aren’t magically excused from abhorrent behavior simply because they’re disabled. Is it easier for some disabled people to create art with AI than without it? Sure. But that’s true irrespective of disability.
It’s only inappropriate to judge someone for something that directly relates to their disability. You’re just using disability as an excuse to churn out slop.
I cannot think of a single disability that would prevent someone from creating art without AI, without also disabling them so completely that they would be able to create art with AI. A quadriplegic person can create art if they want. And it will have infinitely more soul than some slop by someone hiding behind a disability.
You hit the nail on the head, my friend.
Assuming they are disabled, which a passerby like myself cannot be expected to know, that does not excuse the deliberate choice to use ethically unsound technology. It’s especially true in this case, as even if a disability limits your potential as a visual artist, you’ll gladly commission somebody if you have any respect for the craft. I know this because I too have such a disability, and it hurts. It hurts knowing I might forever depend on the hands of others to bring some of my ideas to life, but you know what? That only strengthens my appreciation of visual artists and their work. I’d rather commission a talented artist to mix my silly brainwaves with their personal flourishes and create something meaningful, ten times over, then throw some words at an industrialized theft machine to get soulless slop.
got any links to that event?
Oh are we calling disabled people “Clankers” now?
Haha it’s extraordinary that this drivel is the top comment. Keep up the screeching about shit you don’t understand! At least the other idiots support you.
Dunning-Kruger and bad reading comprehension in full effect.
What do I hear? A bullying douchebag complaining that I didn’t “mark” my edits on a federated service?
GoOd JoB fOr BeInG dIsHoNeSt
damn, you really deliberately took it wrong.
edit: damn calliope really reedit their comment twice without marking it as such, Good job for being dishonest.
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Hahaha you’re the only person I’ve ever met who cares about “marking” edits.
“Dishonest.” lol!! Dry your tears, sweetie
You literally misunderstood the entire thread! Lmao
I wish I had your unearned confidence. Is that a feddit.org thing? I see a surprising number of assholes from feddit.org
What do you mean by “Clankers”? Clanker is a term for robots and AI. So are you saying robots and AI love to play the “disabled card”?
well yeah, that was what I was saying.
Huh. I was expecting ai users feigning being disabled for pity points, and also the ability to call on mob justice on anyone who tries uncovering their lies.
Yeah, and it’s moronic. Thanks for understanding!
Disappointing. AI has done a lot for accessibility.
Such as?
Bet all the CAPTCHAS and JavaScript and rate-limiting added in the last few years really helped with accessibility 😁
Seriously, the anti-AI everything is embarrassing.
They didn’t understand the post, acted like a jerk, and still got tons of upvotes. The delusion is real.
How dare a disabled person use a tool I dislike!
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Oh are we calling disabled people “Clankers” now?
Dunning-Kruger and bad reading comprehension in full effect.
I’m sure this will be a very reasonable and respectful comments section.
Ableists and zealots are really coming out of the woodwork now.
For what it’s worth, you are in the right here. AI is not inherently bad, it is the existence of capitalism which makes it be used for exploitation.
Under socialism, it would be utilised for the benefit of society, and if AI can exist, it will inevitably exist therefore anyone who talks of eridicating AI is promoting silly utopic ideas. I’d prefer for it to be strictly limited to minimalising annoying, monotonous labour and service industies including of course, assisting the disabled.
However I will say you’ll have an easier time convcining others of this if you argue your point without insults, as they are less likely to listen if you do. I’m actually curious, if you don’t mind disclosing that is, what do you use AI for in regards to helping you with your disability?
I’m out of the loop, how did this disabled person use AI to support themselves?
For one example, I’ve seen posts by blind folks using AI to vibe code scripts that fill gaps in accessibility solutions.
It’s not hard stuff to code, it’s just that coders with the skill to fix it upstream either don’t understand the issue, or don’t give a shit.
Heaven forbid someone let the plagiarism machine have a positive use case
How did said disabled person use AI, then ?
So there’s tech that I think is both bad for society and incredibly unethical in it’s creation and propagation that is nothing to say of the utter privacy nightmare it poses for its users.
But all of this is now okay so long as the person using it is from a disadvantaged enough background?
Like, I understand that we want to make extra effort in order to accommodate those with disabilities in our society and part of that can be some moral compromise.
But surely this has limits, no? In fact I know that those limits exist.
But is it really ableism to defer to those?
I’m not saying that the person you encountered wasn’t ableist. But there is a lot more nuance there than “people who hate ‘AI’ are ableist by default”. The same way that people who are in favour of abolishing cars in their city are not doing so to specifically take mobility options away from paraplegics.
Link or it didn’t happen.
Supporting the disabled is genuinely a good use of AI.
How is it supporting them in your opinion?
You could ask OP.
Everyone who is shit at writing claims they’re disabled and need AI as an excuse for posting slop.
Being lazy and uneducated is not a disability.
Here’s the webpage for a quadriplegic painter. What’s your excuse?
https://joniandfriends.org/jonis-artwork/
Yes, all disabled people have the same ability.
None of them need accessibility tools like image descriptions and segmentation, or dictation and writing assistance.
You got me.
Enough with the deliberate bad faith takes. You’re not fooling anyone. It’s just infantile.
The point is that pick any disability you can imagine, and you’ll find people with that disability creating art. And creating art in countless fields and media. Is it easier to get an LLM to vomit out an image for you? Sure. But again, the same thing applies to non-disabled people.
This has nothing to do with having a disability. It has everything to do with being lazy.
I never ever said anything to the contrary of that.
I said generative ai can be used to help disabled people.
Yeah there are some legit good use cases for AI. One of my siblings is dyslexic, an AI bot that can read text out loud would have been fantastic for school. Would be great for them driving, if they had something that was reading aloud the signs they looked at. But I don’t think this is possible in a capitalist system because the company providing that AI would also be selling all the data it collected. It would start reading the signs the company wanted first like ads
Sounds like the problem solved itself
God forbid a disabled person use a tool to aid themselves, might as well hate on TTS programs and motorized wheelchairs.
Watch, they’ll claim they don’t dislike the disabled person, but also will shit talk them more than an able person.
