These might be the good old days. Go outside, feel the grass, say wassup to your neighbors,… whatever you do that means community, because sh*t might get bad for a while.
Ok everyone chill. Yeah, it sucks. But we kinda foresaw this ever since Biden decided to run again. Take a deep breath, think about it more later. The worst thing is to be angry instead of smart. Remember George Floyd. Remember specifically how everyone got angry and did dumb things about it, and today efforts at police reform are actually in a worse place than they were before he was murdered on video.
Think about ways to counter Trump that will be more effective and less just expressions of rage. I think the biggest problem is the media that really plays to Trump’s reality TV-style politics. It’s not enough to wine that the voters are too stupid, but what do we do about it?
Every federal judge and probably the supreme Court for the rest of our lives is going to be wholly owned by the dictatorship. Checks and balances are essentially broken at this point in the president can do whatever he wants with impunity. What about to hit a massive recession. What smart thing do you think were going to do about it?
It’s not enough to wine that the voters are too stupid,
this is ultimately the problem though. The voter base is fucking retarded, and it’s fuelled by a massive propaganda machine. There is literally nothing we can do here.
People outside the US have always been terrified of what the US president might do. Imagine if China had military bases all over the world.
The Kenyan Ambassador to the UN once addressed criticism of his country’s relationship with China thusly:
“Every time the English visit Kenya, they bring a lecture. Every time the Chinese visit Kenyan, they build a hospital”
Which is exactly why China is going to win. They play the long game where we only care about the next quarterly report. We drop bombs, they build schools and hospitals and install water wells. We trap countries into IMF loan scams, they give interest free loans.
We make mass graves. China makes friends.
We haven’t been
Valid take. The military industrial complex is a terrifying ordeal.
There’s surely no chance he can win… the last fortnight has been an utter shit show… I can’t see how it would even be a contest to be honest
I thought the same thing in 2016.
Then I drank so much I blacked out for two solid weeks
… Fuck, I’m like 60% sure I did the exact same thing.
I remember telling my (trump supporter) father the night before the election in 2016 something along the lines of: “You don’t think this clown actually has a chance, do you?”
You said nothing this year, right? RIGHT!?
😂😋😉😳
I haven’t spoken to him since late 2021, so we’re safe in that regard.
The fact that you said fortnight implies that you don’t truly understand the animus of rural america
I live in rural America and kids around here play fortnight all the time
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ive been disconnected. what happened?
Strangely enough for my post to get reported and removed by moderators
The last election was almost perfectly 50/50. It think it will be very close this year as well.
Also, vote if you haven’t yet.
Yep, already dropped of my mail-in ballot in person and received an email from the county election supervisor that my vote counted 🤠
I voted, but since I’m not in a swing state I wouldn’t go so far as to say my vote counted.
Iowa wasn’t considered a swing state till the Selzer Poll. Thank you for helping to build consensus!
House and Senate matter far more than the presidency, without them the president has very little influence on policy with exception of veto power.
With 2/3 control, the president wouldn’t even have veto power and would be entirely powerless.
Vote for your congressional representation! This is the one day that the little guys can determine the policy direction of the country.
I voted mostly for my local elections. Those are sometimes determined by a dozen votes and can have a huge impact on day to day life.
Not with that attitude.
I don’t think I can
NYT is calling it for Trump. America as we know it, may be over.
The war in Ukraine is about to end, with Russia probably getting everything they want, NATO might disband, China likely takes Taiwan, 100 years of authoritarianism and tyranny may be upon us after Trump truly consolidates powers, and nukes the Federal government.
I fucking wish I was being hyperbolic.
Nah, we’re gonna balkanize sooner or later. Economy is fucked beyond fucked. (Thank you Reagan) It won’t be able to keep going. Especially not with republicans at the tiller. The end of the US will be the same as every other empire. But with nukes.
Why Reagan? Who moved all the manufacturing to china and built up China?
Stagnant wages, weakened unions, at-will employment, low corporate taxes, etc. All Reaganomics. Supply side economics. Basically destroyed the economic powerhouse that won the Cold War. It’s still a goliath, but instead of an immovable industrial bullwark its all debt driven gambling now. Speculation and financialization.
I like the part about Ukraine. Also don’t care about Taiwan.
But kinda wish democracy maintains in us.You won’t care about Taiwan until your iPhone costs $3000, then you might realize it was worth defending
I don’t use Phones. Besides - they just gonna move chip making to us in that case.
They’ve been trying to move chip fabricators to the US for decades. The education system is shit here and we don’t have the talent. Also it’s really difficult to get the fabricators right and built for a reasonable cost. So yeah. Your non-iphone is gonna be pricey.
i mean, we’re literally building fabs under the CHIPS act right now.
Remember when the US government gave the telecoms billions to build gigabit internet infrastructure nationwide and they fuckin just didn’t do it?
Pepperidge Farm remembers. Show me a working fab as a result of that act after Trump and Co manage to not fuck it up and then your comment might have some merit. Note: the coming brain drain will not be kind to the USA.
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I like your optimism but I think he was just the test run.
This isn’t a shower thought. This is propaganda.
Chilling and saying hi to your neighbour is propaganda??
No, the title is. Pure fearmongering.
Explain like I’m five.
Man say thing to make you scared for no reason.
You don’t have a lot of confidence in five year olds
Of the Dems win and they don’t put a boot on the neck of this fascist movement it will take over eventually.
Dems are chasing Repubs, so either party winning won’t really change this fact.
With Dems we’re delaying this outcome. With Repubs we’re accelerating it.
But that would require them to reign in the very same companies that sponsor them. One can hope, but it seems unlikely.
Companies don’t want fascism, they just want tax breaks. Civil war and dictatorships are bad for business.
Tell that to Volkswagen, BMW, Messerschmitt, Audi, Deutsche Bank… And all these guys: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_involved_in_the_Holocaust
Fascism is very good for businesses. They squash dissent like unions and the publics voice. Then only the billionaire class will have a voice.
Only the chosen few businesses, and entirely at the whims of the dictator. Your CEO pisses off the leader, your business goes bye bye.
Billionaires in China have been disappeared before. There’s only the head of state that matters in fascism.
Fascists weren’t bad for companies like VW, BMW, and Hugo Boss.
It’s a cult of personality. Jack Smith and the Judiciary just needs to step on the gas as soon as the election is called for Harris, get him gone. It’ll be interesting to see where the GOP goes from there, but MAGA will be dead. Would anyone else be happy with your normal everyday NeoCons running the GOP again?
Like what happened after the last presidential election?
Us on the left need to stop depending on a government whose military is overwhelmingly in support of Trump. We already know nearly all police are the same fascists (not to mention uvalde)
Arm yourself and train your family. Be silently ready for anything, don’t make yourself a target
Top brass seem to swing the other way though. These are generations that tangled with Russia and china for decades now. They see much more behind the curtain than others do.
This ^
If the US military was overwhelmingly in support of Trump Jan 6 would have gone completely differently.
Which fascist movement? american or israel?
Y’all queda
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If Trump loses there are the next two months of wondering how many people will die around the inauguration, then the next two years of wondering what the project 2027 people are going to do, then…
The only way to stop this is to fix the US system. Fix the courts. Fix the elections. Fix gerrymandering. Fix the right wing control of the media. Fix the lies from the “news”.
A law that said the press can not be for-profit, would never happen, but would probably help
Thank Reagan. He ended the Fairness Doctrine. Which is the only reason Trumpism ever happened.
Its 7 minutes until polls close where I am. I voted absentee but still thinking of everyone that still needs to vote
Not if you’re a wage earner, sadly.
as an european, i am watching in absolute shock. i really dont understand how HALF the USA can still vote for this Chicken Nugget of a person.
Some people only have information from one side of the story. If Trump wins, he will likely try to mimic what both Putin and Orbán did with the media.
While you’re mostly right, it isn’t really half because we have this fun thing called the electoral college, that likes to make Republicans win.
It’s not even close to half. Republicans are a quarter to a third of the country.
It’s voter suppression and Democrats being the biggest possible fuckups they could be at every fucking opportunity.
You could watch the reactionism ramp up as they slipped into the minority during Clinton; and white men struggling to deal with the loss of their relevance has basically been the story of American politics since.
Well and so far the popular vote is more red then blue. I think the USA will get the government the voters deserve.
Here’s hoping the rest of the world can not get pulled down.
I’m someone smack in the middle of a liberal city in an always blue state, I don’t know what else there is for me to do. I’ve attempted helping educate and getting people to vote in other states who normally choose not to, I’ve voted in every election down to local boards and try to know who I’m voting for. Locally, we had a lot of successes so far this election in our state…but that won’t help much if, y’know, fascism.
Not sure what to tell you, I am in another nation but a similar situation. The state of things is now to the point media is untrusted, nationalism is both here and missing, while people are angry but happy to blame the “other guys”.
People turn fascist when they’re desperate and angry, same as always. So when people experience economic hardship they look for somone to blame, often immigrants. So we call them racists, and I guess that’s true, but it comes from something else; economic inequality.
In Europe we do the same thing, in the French elections the rural population voted overwhelmingly for the fascists - here in brown.
In the German elections, the poorer former East-German provinces also supported the fascist AfD, here shown in the darker colours.
Even in Denmark, where I live, the more right-wing and extremist parties are popular in the southern, western, and northern parst of the country - the poorer rural areas, who’s seen their jobs disappear, their shops close, and their income stall even as the country as a whole gets richer.
So the challenge of liberal democracy is clear; show the population outside the cities that they, too, can get their piece of the pie. If we cannot solve that, then we’ll see more country turn fascist in the next decade.
i love you
Me: unsubbing every single politics community
Showerthoughts:
You need to block users. Users like me! I am glad you are using lemmy your way. Peace.
Can’t stress this enough. And block based on keywords. My lemmy experience improved dramatically once I started blocking users, subs, and instances I didn’t like.
Those users get to enjoy their thing, and I wont yuck their yum. I’ve managed to cutout most of the rage bait and the stuff in my feed is genuinely interesting.
selfaware lemmy.ml user? based.
Hope you’re not American, because if you are then it’s gonna be really hard to block out the consequences of this election
Accurate
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