• Rooskie91@discuss.online
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    11 days ago

    IDK How to tell you this, but fascist racists own everything and are planning to kill a whole bunch of people soon. I really think people are under estimating the severity of the vision these people have for the world.

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      10 days ago

      Can you quantify soon here? I agree with you that they don’t have good intentions, but I think that framing it as like, a planned genocide is not accurate. More realistically what can happen is more systemic injustices and consolidations of power to prevent anyone from resisting.

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        10 days ago

        To start with, their plan for mass deportation probably already counts as a displacement genocide. There will be thousands of deaths from it leaving aside everything else wrong with it.

        There are also approximately 3 million trans people in the US. Every single one of them is in danger as the fascists’ chosen scapegoat.

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      10 days ago

      kill a whole bunch of people soon

      If you don’t couch this a whole lot, it undermines the seriousness of what is actually about to happen.

      Anything less than tens of millions dead falls short of your comment. And that’s likely not the reality.

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        10 days ago

        Anything less than tens of millions dead falls short of your comment. And that’s likely not the reality.

        Trans people, the group currently most targeted for elimination by the right, represent about 1% of the US population. Jewish people in pre-Nazi Germany also represented about 1% of the population.

        When Republicans past eliminationist laws meant to persecute trans people, deny them from public life, and kill them by taking away their healthcare, they are committing crimes of the same order as what Germany did in the 1930s.

        That is simple historical by-the-numbers truth.

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          1% is 3.8 million people. They’ll likely be ostracized, forced into hiding, and we all know the effects of that.

          We’re both describing terrible things, terrible things that are short of hunting people down and loading them into trains.

          Your comparison does a disservice to everyone. Setting the bar at the damn holocaust gives our opponents an easy out. “They act like we’re”, “we’re just”, are the natural, easy responses.

          Don’t give them easy outs. Things can be less terrible than the actual Holocaust and still be terrible.

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            10 days ago

            They’re talking about rounding up 20 million people and deporting them. Do you really think you can do that without setting up massive camps that match or exceed the scale of anything the Nazis set up? And if you really want to move that many people around, you may end up having to use trains.

            Oh, and worse, they have no plan on how to actually deport that many people. The Nazis originally planned to deport all the Jews as well. Yet they quickly found that there simply weren’t enough nations willing to accept all these deportees. Other countries aren’t obligated to accept your deportees.

            So you now have millions of people in camps, costing a fortune to maintain, and no where to send these people. That always ends in slavery, death, or death by slavery. Whenever your plan starts with “round up tens of millions of people and put them in camps,” you can guarantee that a massive death toll is going to follow.

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              And I think your comment here is a hell of a lot more valuable than starting out with “IDK How to tell you this, but fascist racists own everything and are planning to kill a whole bunch of people soon.”

              You can’t just skip to the end of the worst case scenario without people blowing you off. I mostly agree with you; I just think that particular messaging is damaging.

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                10 days ago

                I think starting off so dismissive until later in the thread makes it seem very much like you don’t mostly agree and is more damaging to the idea

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          10 days ago

          The chilling thing for me is that Nazi Germany was able to accomplish this without the technology and mass surveillance we have today.

          It will be a slow boil and they’ll arrest people one at a time for “terrorism” and such. I won’t be surprised to see extremist militias going after people as well.

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            10 days ago

            They won’t even need to use terrorism. Right in Project 2025 is a plan to slowly classify any public existence or acknowledgement of LGBT identities as “pornographic.” And in turn classify showing “pornography” to children is pedophilia and worthy of being put on the sex offender registry. They want to make it so if say, a trans woman, goes out in public and a child sees her, then that is the equivalent of grooming an 8 year old child by showing them pornographic videos. Oh, and they also want to attach the death penalty to crimes of pedophilia.

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        10 days ago

        Is the holocaust really your measurement for the meaning of “killing a bunch of people?” I don’t think things have to get all that bad to be justified in saying “a bunch of people died.”

        When you look into where contemporary right wing ideologies comes from, and what journalists are reporting on in online right wing spaces, a holocaust doesn’t seem out of the question. The Turner Diaries is worth looking into. Robert Evans is also a pretty informed journalist on the matter.

  • solsangraal@lemmy.zip
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    11 days ago

    every day it gets more incredible to me that people are so fucking addicted to fake validation and fake likes from fake friends that they still use fucking twitter

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    10 days ago

    Keep using it! That’ll fix it! It’s like when a company gives you shitty service you keep giving them your business and eventually they’ll give you good service!

    That’s how it works, right?

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    10 days ago

    I really thought all this free speech nonsense was because they wanted to be free to be rude.

    Really didn’t think it was that hypocritical that only some people can be rude…

    Saying all speech is okay is something I can kind of respect, this isn’t it.

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      10 days ago

      I think there’s more straight up anti-black people than full on racist. The world hates us 😂

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        It’s possible that they are more vocally anti-black, but it has been my experience that hateful people are just full of hate. They go after the most convenient target, and have no problems with changing to another target if it is just as convenient.

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      10 days ago

      To be fair, it’s far more precise, being a subset of racism, especially given the context of some racist slurs being filtered while others aren’t, depending on the targeted race.

      In today’s fucked up world, it wouldn’t surprise me if anti-white and anti-black slurs were filtered but anti-hispanic and anti-asian slurs weren’t, for instance, maybe to drive nationalism regardless of race. I appreciate the additional clarity.

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      11 days ago

      Being able to disregard being called “cracker” is itself a form of white privilege. As a white guy, I don’t have to care if some black person expresses hatred against me because I have power that they do not (e.g. they’re not likely to act on their hatred because if the police are called they’re likely to take my side, etc.). The implied threat is not credible.

      In contrast, black people do not have the freedom to ignore white people calling them the n-word, because historically that has been accompanied by a real risk of attack. The likelihood may have waned over the years, but that implied threat remains credible. (That goes double for the fact that, as casual/mainstream use of the word has fallen out of favor, those still willing to use it are all the more extreme/violent-tempered.)

      • Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip
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        Being able to disregard being called “cracker” is itself a form of white privilege

        No it means I’m not offended by every stupid shit some cringelord says online.

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      10 days ago

      This is what I don’t get, people not migrating from a shit platform. Twitter, Reddit, Instagram, etc.

      They all just reach this critical mass where people decide the benefit of everyone else using it outweighs all the negatives of the platform being abusive to its own users

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    10 days ago

    what’s fun is hexber will ban you for saying the n word, but cracker is totally fine