• Carl@lemm.eeEnglish
    9·
    1 hour ago

    This almost certainly won’t kill the Hexbear community, and frankly I don’t think there’s any way they will choose to pony up the auction money. This community has moved from reddit to discord to the fediverse and they’ll probably just be on their backup/original domain chapo.chat for a month or two before switching over to whatever the admins decide to switch to, and then it will be business as usual under a new name.

    Still there’s a lesson here about setting up a durable online community - don’t let someone control the domain registration with their personal account, you’re just asking for something like this to happen. If they don’t have one already the admins should set up some kind of organization that can “own” the new domain, donations, etc so that this can’t happen again.

  • Rentlar@lemmy.ca
    101·
    3 hours ago

    Sad but kinda hilarious. Lemmy.ca appears to have a better succession plan in place through the nonprofit organization…

  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
    222·
    3 hours ago

    Popcorn! Get’cher popcorn here! Can’t have a good fedidrama without that delicious buttery popcorn!

    • archonet@lemy.lolEnglish
      92·
      3 hours ago

      I’ll have a large with extra salt, please.

      Oh, hell, and some milk duds too, it’s gonna be a good show.

    • vger@lemmy.mlEnglish
      15·
      3 hours ago

      They didn’t really move. That hostname has been a synonym for hexbear.net all along. It may have been the instance’s original hostname.

  • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
    161·
    4 hours ago

    They’ll probably stay in chapo.chat, and instance owners will update their blocked lists. A few users lost because they can’t be arsed to re-register, instead using .ml. But, past that, not much is going to change, I think.

    I’m mildly curious on what’s going to happen with their older domain - or, what the winning bidder will make out of it. (Document bad online behaviour? Make it about NATO to rub salt on their wounds? What else?)

    • OpenStars@piefed.socialEnglish
      101·
      3 hours ago

      Except they already said that the same issue will occur with the backup name as well. Unless the additional time allows the original owner to finally reregister it this time, as they (reportedly) claimed to be ready to do for the main one as well. I think they don’t trust them anymore:-).

      So everyone might move, then have to move again a second time. Not joking btw!:-)

      Is it weird that I feel bad for them? Whoever is to blame, a lot of the users are innocent of this. And are also trolls, true, but even so… It would be nice if some people would learn from this that online trolling is one thing, but eventually it’s even better to wake up and live in the real world. I want that for them.

      • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
        2·
        2 hours ago

        I think that the additional time will be enough to let them contact the original owner. But dunno, there might be some drama involved, IIRC not even the original devs want much to do with HB.

        And even if they move twice, the userbase seems close-knit enough to follow without too many losses.

        Is it weird that I feel bad for them?

        I don’t think it is. The main problem there seems to be users going rogue outside their home instance; I remember HB had some rule like “respect rules of the other instances you interact with”, but it was toilet paper. However plenty of the other users are completely OK.

        Another issue is that there is some red scare against them. And even if they use it to shield themselves from actual criticism in a really dumb way, the red scare is still there.

      • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.mlEnglish
        7·
        2 hours ago

        It was the original website people from /r/chapotraphouse migrated to when it was banned on reddit but then everyone decided they didn’t even really like the podcast and made a new thing

        • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
          2·
          2 hours ago

          I get that but do we need to defederate from them or not? It seems like they don’t have federation enabled or something.

            • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
              23·
              24 minutes ago

              sigh

              That’s a funny way of saying you have no clue what chapo.chat actually is. Hexbear is the epitome of the blind leading the blind.

              I could never have imagined that certain leftists were equally as stupid and ignorantly abrasive as MAGA trumpers, but you clowns have proven it beyond all doubt. It’s so profoundly concerning and disappointing 😑

              Why can’t you just act like a mature adult and answer a simple question? Why must you incessantly seek to spread divisiveness and misery?

              • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.mlEnglish
                31·
                19 minutes ago

                No it’s a funny way of saying your instance sucks

                Who is spreading divisiveness? You are explicitly asking if you need to take additional steps to divide yourself from elsewhere.

                Not to distract attention from your frankly obsessive and weird hate rant

                • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
                  1·
                  2 minutes ago

                  I’m asking if chapo.chat is part of Lemmy or not. Do they federate with other servers, or is it isolated? Just answer the damn question.

                  I explicitly federated sh.itjust.works with hexbear, at the request of your fearless leader u/CARCOSA, and I took a whole bunch of shit from all sides for that decision. Then you defederated us within 24 hours, because you couldn’t handle losing arguments with our users. I have always tried to be reasonable with you people but it counts for nothing, because you just attack and abuse everyone you come into contact with.

  • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
    215·
    5 hours ago

    Wow, that’s a fuck up of monumental proportions. Still 9 days left on the auction, I wonder how much it’ll ultimately sell for.

    This could be really annoying when they all make accounts on lemmy.ml. Funnily enough, having them sequestered over there and defederated from the rest of us has been working pretty well lately. Moderators and admins better start dusting off the banhammers.

    • Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
      62·
      5 hours ago

      It would probably be easier for them to keep chapo.chat. Should they massively move to lemmy.ml and recreate their communities there, I guess a lot of instances would start to defederate lemmy.ml

      • jqubed@lemmy.world
        11·
        4 hours ago

        Reading through the admin’s post it looks like they have the exact same issue with chapo.chat being registered by an admin who is no longer active and not responding to the rest of the admin team. They explicitly say to view the move to chapo.chat as temporary unless they can get control of that domain.

        Sounds like a good lesson for them and many other fediverse instances to form some sort of non-profit/club/organization legal entity and better ensure that these critical items are open to multiple individuals to reduce the bus factor. I would assume having a legal entity would make it easier to get donations to cover costs too.

        • Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
          4·
          4 hours ago

          Seems to be kind of a backup domain/instance the hexbear admins have? Not sure to be honest, hopefully someone else can chime in

          • vger@lemmy.mlEnglish
            6·
            3 hours ago

            It’s the same instance. That’s just a synonymous hostname that points to the same IP address.

          • bishbosh@lemm.eeEnglish
            5·
            3 hours ago

            Right after the r/chapotraphouse sub got banned, they moved to chapo.chat, but the community wasn’t really that tied with the chapo trap house podcast anymore, so they moved to hexbear.net.

      • Hubi@feddit.org
        312·
        5 hours ago

        Paid registration renewal is inherently capitalist, you deranged westoid.

        spoiler

        How’d I do?

      • Ben Hur Horse Race@lemm.ee
        44·
        3 hours ago

        or just look for their obnoxious emojis, which are full color photos of some gross asshole.

        Im honestly annoyed by this as I have over 30 communities on hexbear blocked. id really not like to have to do it again

        • Ech@lemm.eeEnglish
          4·
          42 minutes ago

          Good news - you can block entire instances on current Lemmy. No need to go community by community.

          Bad news - it does nothing about the users. You’ll still see their comments and posts elsewhere.

      • Glent@lemmy.ca
        710·
        4 hours ago

        Im assuming the war in ukraine and sanctions slowed down their flow of capital. Moneys probably been diverted to their top tier podcasters and youtubers who actually have an audience. Daddy expects results.

    • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.mlEnglish
      113·
      1 hour ago

      Rent free.

      If you go to their megathread on the topic you’ll see that not only are they not bidding, they’re telling people not to bid on their behalf and go to their https://chapo.chat/c/mutual_aid comm and give the money to someone who needs it. So if you have 300+ bucks to set on fire please consider helping someone with their rent or groceries. Or on the kid from Gaza trying to raise money for a prosthetic leg. You’ll feel better than spending it on spite.

  • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
    11·
    5 hours ago

    I’ve had that happen to some URLs I own before. Basically, they forgot to renew. Normally you get a grace period but some sketchy domain admins take the lapse as an opportunity to auction off what was originally a worthless address now that it has value.

      • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
        13·
        5 hours ago

        I am willing to bet that the contact person is either gone or not checking email. It wouldn’t surprise me if they lost access to the portal.

        Ironic that it’s capitalism that’s going to take down Hexbear.

        • Carl@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          1 hour ago

          Yeah but on the other hand it’ll hardly be the first time this community has moved. Looking at the frontpage of chapo.chat the userbase doesn’t seem particularly bothered by the possibility.

      • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
        6·
        5 hours ago

        I found some people alleging the sav.com is sketchy about other aspects of their service. It wouldn’t surprise me if they tactically overreacted to a single missed email, or a single expired credit card, or something like that, to squeeze their client for more money.