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    I don’t understand this post. Salt doesn’t mean sodium. NaCl and KCl are both salts, and this is a 50/50 blend with less sodium (Na) for the people who need/want that. Am I missing something?

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    As stated right there on the label, some of the NaCl has been replaced with taster’s choice KCl. So it was never pure sodium to begin with, due to all that pesky chlorine and now about half of the Na has been replaced with Potassium.

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      Imagine making pasta and salting the water with pure sodium. There’s a reason they don’t sell that in the supermarket.

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          I had to read this like 24 times to make sure I didn’t miss anything, but I’m 98% certain you’re correct. When referring to the individual components it should be chlorine not chloride. I’m not a chemical doctor, but this is my understanding.

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            Horrible at chemistry, but I’m 98% sure it is chloride - the chlorine is present as an anion, and as such is called chloride. Even if you refer to it as an individual component, you still observe Cl-, not Cl (or rather Cl2).

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              No, the element is chlorine. Chloride denotes a compound or molecule containing a chlorine ion, or a compound with a non-charged chlorine atom bonded.

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                This whole thread is very pedantic but in chemistry when someone refers to chlorine, they are usually referring to Cl2. I think in IUPAC naming chloride is reserved for for ions. Like dichloromethane (IUPAC) and methylene chloride (also common name).

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                Now I am confused. Mind bearing with me for a sec?

                I was referring to the chlorine present in NaCl, that should in fact be chloride due to it’s anionic nature, should it not? I mean sure it’s pedantic, but I’d still like to know where I went wrong with that thought :D .

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      Being somebody who has to watch their sodium intake due to heart health concerns I would say that Morton is not at all deranged in creating this especially considering I’ve got a container of it sitting on my spice rack right now.

      Though it should be noted I do my best not to think about the fact that KCL is used in lethal injections. 😒 I just thank the gods I don’t have any ulcers.

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        Potassium is totally normal and required by the body. It’s actually hard to get the RDA of potassium.

        It’s just that too much stops your heart.

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          It’s also important to note that unless you’re on medication that prevents your body from releasing it (such as spironolactone) it’s extremely hard to od on it. Your body can release it in the urine if you have a bit too much

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        It’s more the pure sodium part. Stop, drop, and roll would be a lot more important if it was pure sodium.

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        would say that Morton is not at all deranged in creating this especially considering I’ve got a container of it sitting on my spice rack right now.

        It has an additional use, too.

        The non-“salt” ingredient here, potassium chloride, is the “harder to find” ingredient in a simple four ingredient rehydration solution.

        The other ingredients are sodium chloride, sugar, and water.

        So equal parts this and sugar in a glass of water and you’ve got yourself the world health organization’s answer to dehydration.

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        Not at all the statement of a moron: in colloquial usage yeah, salt is sodium chloride, but in in a chemistry setting it is not just sodium chloride. In this case it probably has potassium chloride — a sodium-free salt.

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    They can’t call it a salt substitute because it still has salt. Some people are told to cut down on salt, so would be attracted to something that tastes salty but has less salt in it. I get why it’s funny, but it seems reasonable to me.

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      At least it doesn’t say organic… since salt is an inorganic compound and that’d be straight up silly.

      What I’m wondering is does this salt have extra filler or is it made of something else that tastes salty without being actual salt? How does one make it have 50% less sodium without selling a smaller size container? Marketing is fucking ridiculous sometimes. Just say what’s in it!

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        It’s less sodium as in NaCl, and more potassium (why do English have so awful names for elements?) KCl. It’s still salt, and it taste similar to NaCl.

        Normal table salt is ~99% NaCl

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          Thanks for the info! I found it super confusing the way the packaging advertised the product.

          I’m also a bit cynical when it comes to “health” food so I assumed it was some bullshit marketing ploy. Good to know it’s an actual thing this time.

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        At least it doesn’t say organic… since salt is an inorganic compound and that’d be straight up silly.

        Except that, in food, “organic” just means no pesticides or synthetic chemicals were used in making it.

        No fillers, just two ingredients: iodized sodium and potassium chloride.

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          Isn’t that what all salt is? When they put stuff like that on a product like salt it starts to lose meaning and is clearly a marketing gimmick aimed at health conscious people.

          I’m not okay with taking advantage of people who want to be healthy. As with everything marketing its about stretching the truth to outright lying and it seriously needs to be more regulated so words like organic actually mean something to consumers and we know what we’re buying. If they want to lable salt as organic, it should say “uses organic cornstarch as an anti-caking agent.” The cornstarch is organic, not the salt itself because it can’t be.

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            No, they replaced half of the sodium chloride with potassium chloride. It really is half salt. No one is being taken advantage of.

            There are a lot of words on packaging that are unregulated, but “organic” isn’t one of them. If they use it, it has to mean what the FDA says it means, and that’s not the opposite of inorganic.

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      And then put twice the amount because it’s only half as salty. Still dumb imo.

      It’s only good if you are deficient in potassium though, which I believe a lot of people are (although I don’t know how easily our body can get potassium from KCl)

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        KCl is 60% as salty as NaCl, which means lite salt is ~80% as salty as regular salt, so it should still result in less sodium being used overall. KCl also reduces blood pressure, acting like an opposite to NaCl, which raises the blood pressure. Lite salt is great for people with high blood pressure.

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        This demon is trying to trick you into spending twice as much on summoning salt because they have stock in the company!

        Also it won’t work and demons will eat your ass in a non-consensual way, salt is used as a symbol of purity and the additives/mixture by definition make it non-pure (salt).

        No, the question really is whether potassium chloride by itself would work, also being pure (potassium) salt.

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      Imagine getting murdered by faeries because you used low-salt salt for your magic circle like an idiot.

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      That’s just propoganda by big demons. They want to you to buy salt so they can season you. Why do you think people say garlic will repel vampires. Sheple, all are sheple. That’s just vampire propoganda.

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      The government doesn’t want you to know that you can pair that with a nice glass of pure chloride

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    It’s half potassium chloride, that can cause you heart issues too if you get to much of it.

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      There is a risk if you have an extreme intake, but it’s going to be pretty hard to do that by seasoning your food with lite salt unless you’re doing something really extreme. Most people have a RDA of at least 2g of potassium, and I would hazard a guess that most people who are being told by their doctors to cut down on sodium intake probably aren’t getting a ton of potassium from what they’re eating.

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      True, but doctors will still recommend it because of you tell people they can’t have any seasoning they might just ignore you.
      If you tell them they can have the other stuff, they’ll find it much easier to comply and it’s still much better.

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      Stay hydrated and have good working kidneys and you should be fine. But that can be said for sodium chloride as well.

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    We Dutch call it “Kalium zout” or Low Sodium Salt. The brand I buy is iodized and has 70% less natrium. And yeah, it is for health reasons, like heart condition, high blood pressure and other medical ailments, or people who want to eat less salt in their diets.

    Anyway, what you are looking at is 100% salt and original op (the one on xitter) is an idiot.

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        I always mix those up because we also use Kalij and Natrij for K and Na and potassium and sodium is just off. At least sodium I can get from sodium bicarbonate.

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    Wait until you see “lite Vodka” which is just Vodka watered down to 40 proof and sold at the same price.

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    Would be cool to find out it’s 50% sodium chloride and 50% chlorine.

    Open the box to eternal peace.